Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of online grocers

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The result was delete‎. If anyone wants to rework this article in Draft space, let me know or go to WP:REFUND. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of online grocers[edit]

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Per WP:YELLOWPAGES, WP:NLIST. Apart from advertising a specific service, this page serves no discernible purpose. Kleuske (talk) 09:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Companies, and Lists. Kleuske (talk) 09:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't know of any major store that doesn't deliver things to people. Not a defining characteristic. Dream Focus 23:26, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dream Focus Really? That seems like a very present-ist argument. When the article online grocer was first started, there weren't that many of them. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:57, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dream Focus: I know of several grocery stores in the U.S. that don't provide delivery services, such as Trader Joe's, for example. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
delete Creating this was the act of WP:RECENTISM, and illustrates why the race to create these articles is misguided and results in unencyclopedic content. Now, nearly every chain is a online grocer, and things get pretty vague around the edges: is nuts.com an example? Mangoe (talk) 03:46, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mangoe I agree that the problem with the article is that it's rooted in a specific period of time...but I'm not sure that is the same as WP:RECENTISM which has to do with breaking news and such. It took decades for online grocers to become feasible. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:56, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:NOTTEMPORARY, there is nothing special about online grocery anymore. In 2014 it was a novelty (I guess; don’t really remember or care what the state of online shopping was in my tweens); then in 2020 is was OMG COVID CHANGING THE WAY WE LIVE FOR EVAR; now it’s hard to remember when this wasn’t a thing. In 1910 an exhaustive List of automobiles would have made just as much sense, but even just 10 years later it’d start to look ridiculous. Dronebogus (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I think the most salient point is that this list is already adequately captured by clicking on the Category "Online grocers"; there's no need for a duplicate list that has to be updated manually. I do wonder if there are sources cited in this list that could be referenced in the main article for online grocers (which could use a bit of TLC), but maybe these references also have a short shelf life. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pun intended? Dronebogus (talk) 00:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but limit to companies that started out as online grocers – Then, adjust Category:Online grocers to reflect this. Adding an edit notice stating this as a requirement would keep the article in check. The list would be a great deal shorter, but it would provide valuable info for readers. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why would that be a defining characteristic? Whether you started with a single physical location or online, does it make any difference? Why not just list those who only have online groceries, no physical location at all? What about those who sell other things online besides food? Dream Focus 11:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I actually think you are on to something @Northamerica1000, but pragmatically I think we need to fix the main article for online grocers first, and then consider whether the re-creating the List page (with some kind of narrower criteria) makes sense. In any case, online grocers needs a complete rewrite (there are parts of it now that make no sense, completely understandable given that this was history being made as the article evolved over time). Cielquiparle (talk) 23:55, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.