Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kosovo Raid (1448) (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Kosovo Raid (1448)[edit]
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This article fails WP:NEVENT and WP:GNG. No results on Google Books for a Kosovo Raid of 1448. Sources have mostly short/trivial mentions of event, sometimes with different dates and different perpetuators. If a significant raid did take place WP:SIGCOV from contemporary sources would exist which would warrant a standalone article, otherwise trivial mentions in sources can be sufficiently described in Đurađ Branković, Skanderberg, John Hunyadi or any related articles. Wafflesvarrg (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Albania, Serbia, and Turkey. Wafflesvarrg (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Sources used in the article:
- [1] inaccessible
- [2] short mention in a masters' thesis of Skanderbeg sacking Serbia; not sure if showing significant scholarly influence per WP:SCHOLARSHIP
- [3] short mention in a footnote sourced from a 1509 and 1743 book dating the event to 1444 not 1448.
- [4] trivial mention, also contradict content with quote p.393: "Hunyadi treated Serbia as enemy territory, plundering and devastating the countryside."
- [5] contradict content, full quote :"It was formerly believed that George Brankovic, responding to Murad's hopes in him, had blocked the mountain passes against George Castriota, who supposedly tried to come to the crusaders' help with his Albanian troops but recent research has shown this to be untrue".
- [6] trivial mention on p 63., different perpetuator. The quote is "As after Varna by Vlad, so now Hunyadi on his flight was detained by the Despot, on whom after his release he wreaked the milder vengeance of devastating part of his territory."
- [7] About the Second Battle of Kosovo. Hunyadi’s Campaign of 1448 and the Second Battle of Kosovo Polje, no mention of 1448 Raid.
- [8] same as 4
- [9] same as 5
- [10] same as 6
- [11] same as 6
- [12] About Second Battle of Kosovo.
- [13] About Second Battle of Kosovo.
- [14] same as 1
- [15] same as 2
- [16] same as 3
- [17] This seems to be about the 1444 Battle of Varna not sure what content this is supporting.
- Sources section list this book which contains chapter Skanderbeg’s Revolt in Albania pp. 556 to 558 but no mention of a military campaign or raid launched in Kosovo in 1448; the closest I could find was p 554 "Then he (Hunyadi in 1448) led his armies through Serbia anyway, plundering Serbia like an enemy land." and p 557 "Skanderbeg, leaving part of his army to carry on the siege of Danj, met the Turks in battle in September 1448" and p 558 "Skanderbeg at the end of 1448 concluded a peace with Venice"
Wafflesvarrg (talk) 12:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Does not appear to be significant enough for a separate article since there are barely a handful of mentions of the event and nothing in detail. If not already included, good sources could be added to relevant articles. Aintabli (talk) 05:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per above. This event is not significant enough to have its own article because there is very little information about it available. Боки Write to me! 21:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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