Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenzie Weir

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The result was Draftify‎ to allow for continued improvement Star Mississippi 01:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kenzie Weir[edit]

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Fails GNG with a lack of independent significant coverage of her. Dougal18 (talk) 11:59, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Scotland. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, lack of sourcing. Various club reports on their websites; this is the only source I found, it's trivial [1] Oaktree b (talk) 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I think this is probably a case of WP:TOOSOON as she may become notable in the not too distant future. Perhaps moving to draft or user space in the interim would be appropriate. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 08:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I partly agree and partly disagree agree with "Stevie fae Scotland". I think she is likely to become a star of women's football, so she deserves an improved Wikipedia page, not a deletion. TGNorthfield (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this is a clear case of WP:TOOSOON. The subject is someone who does not currently meet the level of notability that would be expected for an article, but could well do so in the future. ~~As it stands probably Delete for now, but with the option to restore the article if and when the subjects career has progressed a bit further and she has attracted more coverage.~~ Dunarc (talk) 20:55, 10 September 2023 (UTC) Amended by Dunarc (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Either Keep or Draftify - @Oaktree b, Stevie fae Scotland, TGNorthfield, GiantSnowman, and Dunarc: I've been able to retrieve several independent and (hopefully) reliable sources/external links that provide a bit more coverage about Weir, so I've updated and expanded the article accordingly. It should be noted that she's just made her debut and scored her first senior goal in the UEFA Women's Champions League, which should help her get closer to minimum WP:GNG. Oltrepier (talk) 08:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good work on additional sources, and article improvement - but I still don't think it's enough. As such, I agree to drafify to allow further work. Giant Snowman 08:36, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Oltrepier, that's much appreciated. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 13:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good improvements, Oltrepier. I think it is borderline whether notability concerns are met, though I think this could rapidly change, but would have no strong objections to either keep or draftify. Dunarc (talk) 21:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of the additional sources cover Kenzie Weir in depth. Playing football and signing contracts is routine coverage that does not go to passing GNG. Her prelim UWCL appearance wouldn't have made her pass WP:NFOOTBALL so it doesn't make her pass GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 09:31, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dougal18 You're probably right; this BBC article specifically cites her first senior (and UWCL) goal, though, so I suppose it's something... Oltrepier (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Already has enough sources imo. Young plauyer who has played in Women's Super League with ongoing career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete.

Source 1 (The Herald): routine brief call-up announcement that has more info on her dad than on her.

2, 4, 8: Everton FC press release.

3: ESPN match stats.

5: BBC match recap that doesn't mention Weir.

6: Lewes FC press release.

7, 9: Routine transfer news on what seems to be a SPS.

10 (Irish Examiner): Roster in match recap.

11 (The 42): Roster in match recap.

12 (BBC): Passing mention in routine match recap.

13 (L Football): passing mention in tournament recap.

14 (Liverpool Echo): passing mention in interview with dad.

15: Northwich FC press release on her brother.

16 (Scotsman): doesn't mention Kenzie.

These sources are nowhere near enough to establish GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 05:20, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify is probably the best compromise, at this point, but I still think we could even keep it... Oltrepier (talk) 19:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.