Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Fitch
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. Avi 18:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
notability, not sure this measures up to WP:BIO Chris 04:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Google search gets 42,500 for "Jon fitch" but only gets 28 for "Jonathan Parker Fitch" Jaenop 05:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This AFD is rather ironic since there's been talk in the mixed martial arts blogosphere that Fitch is someone who does not get the recognition he deserves. Still, there are just enough articles written about him by independent sources, here and here, with a third article written by the UFC themselves, which may not count as an independent source. Fitch is a UFC fighter (the UFC is among the top organizations worldwide in mixed martial arts) who also is the #7 ranked welterweight according to MMAWeekly. All of this should fulfull WP:BIO's requirement of a notable sportsperson. hateless 05:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- question is #7 notable? if it were 1-3, I could understand. what are the criteria for the organization? he sounds like he nips at the edges of notability, but is not yet there. for the record, I'd like you to be right. I found him doing a related name search, always want genuine notables to stay. Chris 08:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- By organization, I meant something like a sport league. While the UFC is not technically a sports league like the NFL or NBA, since it's not in a team sport, it functions almost just like one. Fitch could be considered a major league fighter in that sense, and like any major league player, his status in the majors depends on the subjective evaluations of whoever controls the purse strings. I do recognize that he is on a borderline in terms of WP:BIO criteria, and I can't say being #7 confers automatic notability (albeit I think it strengthens the case), but a search for "Jon Fitch" ufc in Google yields 36,000+ hits and enough verifiable material to expand the article beyond a stub, especially on the topic of his fighting career. Most hits are accounts and descriptions of his past matches in the UFC. hateless 19:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 19:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep per hateless. If you fight in the UFC, you are notable enough for an article. VegaDark 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep As stated in WP:BIO, "Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable". The UFC is clearly a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport. There are plenty of reliable references out there. This seems like a gimme. 02:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Does this even need to be discussed? The guy is legit and famous.
- Comment Of course, else we wouldn't be discussing him. Legit, more than likely. "Famous"? Not hardly. The Dalai Lama is famous. Michael Jordan is famous. We're determining that the guy is notable. If he were "famous", then there would never be any queston at all. Chris 02:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per this search Addhoc 19:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.