Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamyang Tenzin

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:19, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jamyang Tenzin[edit]

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Despite the player only being brought on to Bhutan team once as a substitute, this player might fail WP:GNG on the basis of not having much info. HawkAussie (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 00:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ - Arguably no bigger feat than playing for your country. Similar case to AfD/Batbayar Khash-Erdene, which was kept back in May. Also, happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, I'd assume it's very difficult to find local media online for Bhutan and it's football, à la how we give a 'pass' to footballers from the 30s, 40s etc. Delete, if clarified - Apologies, I had forgotten about the Tier 1 International Match part of NFOOTY. It's a little arbitrary, but if that's how our guidelines stand then I'll follow them. R96Skinner (talk) 00:48, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He played as a substitute in an AFC club game against Global FC in 2013 and that's the only additional thing I can find about him anywhere. Maybe there's more local sourcing? SportingFlyer T·C 03:50, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- per NFOOTY and per major Systemic Bias concerns, as countries with more limited online media, especially in English language, should not be treated as less notable, as indicated by R96Skinner. matt91486 (talk) 04:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Even if someone technically passes WP:NFOOTY, we won't keep them if they definitively fail WP:GNG, which is the case here. SportingFlyer T·C 06:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep passes WP:NFOOTY , has played at the highest international level for Bhutan.He did play in a friendly match between Bhutan vs Thailand match on 14th Novmeber 2012.But checking whether it is a official match [1] ,[2] and [3]Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:56, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - has no tier-1/official games for the national team (confirmed by NFT, the only source on the article) - perhaps @R96Skinner and Matt91486: would like two reconsider given (ignoring GNG concerns) he actually fails NFOOTBALL... Giant Snowman 09:57, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Again, NFooty can't supersede WP:GNG for which this article fails. Govvy (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I hadn't appreciated when I created this article that it was not an official friendly that he participated in. Happy that this player fails NFOOTY. @HawkAussie: I, like most editors, would appreciate the courtesy of being informed when an article of mine is up for discussion. I received nothing for either the PROD or this AfD. Fenix down (talk) 11:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - For clarification: Why isn't the Thailand vs. Bhutan match Tier 1? I assume we aren't just taking NFT's word for it? No match reports ([4], [5], [6], [7]) of the game mention it being unofficial. R96Skinner (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Footballer who hasn't played in a fully-pro league or in a FIFA "Tier 1" match. No significant coverage exists online (although a Tibetan political activist with the same name gets a good amount of online coverage), resulting in a miserable GNG failure. Jogurney (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seemingly true Jogurney, but why isn't Thailand v. Bhutan considered Tier 1? It seems to pass Tier 1 requirements in relation to the FIFA regulations? R96Skinner (talk) 17:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find anything conclusive, but an ESPN article indicates Suzuki Cup matches were first treated as Tier 1 ("A") internationals by FIFA in 2016. Thailand's 2012 friendly with Bhutan was simply a warm-up match for the Suzuki Cup. As such, I highly doubt it could have been a Tier 1 match - and I'd need to see some evidence to demonstrate that it was. Jogurney (talk) 18:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good spot. I'm content to trust NFT, but it's good to try and clear things up for future reference. R96Skinner (talk) 18:56, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Footballer who hasn't played in a fully-pro league or in a FIFA. --SalmanZ (talk) 18:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – No sources, no article, per every core content policy (V, NOR, BLP, NOT). There are no secondary sources in the article, or here. I know NFT is considered reliable enough by WP:FOOTBALL, but what we have is a BLP where the only source is to a self-published website containing statistics that we know are sometimes wrong or incomplete. This fails like every single part of WP:V. I am finding more coverage of a badminton player with that name than a football player. This is (or should be) WP:BLPPROD-worthy. – Levivich 01:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – No sources, no article, per every core content policy (V, NOR, BLP, NOT). - MA Javadi (talk) 19:16, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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