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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The argument that there is a lack of significant coverage in independent reliable secondary sources has not been successfully refuted, and as such the delete side prevails. Stifle (talk) 10:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ilario Bisi-Pedro[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources, there does seem to be a short passage in The Royal Court Theatre Inside Out but that is insufficient by itself to support notability. Seems to have played only minor roles in notable productions thus failing NACTOR. W42 13:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Nigeria, and England. W42 13:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Come on, there are sources to help back things up. Since this proposed deletion, I have tried to find more things to help save the page such as the actor was part of African Pan Players, who were invited to Senegal in 1966. There, with the Negro Theatre Workshop, they presented a show about slavery and the evolution of African art.[1]


Then again, there are actor pages that have been on here for donkeys (Frederick Hall, Roy Spencer, Tom Kelly, Laurence Harrington, John Hallet, Eileen Helsby, Timothy Walker, Leonard Trolley to name but a few) and have gotten by with naff all for sources.Silurian25 (talk) 11:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That source is a single mention of Bisi-Pedro in a list of names which does not constitute WP:SIGCOV. The subject still needs to pass WP:GNG, but you are welcome to nominate other articles for deletion if you think they also do not comply with Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. W42 21:44, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Also has appeared in movies in some capacity like The Dogs of War (getting machine gunned by Christopher Walken) and The Lady (playing anti-apartheid campaigner Archibishop Desmond Tutu). Surely the dedication to him at the end of his Some Girls would add some sort of acknowledgement as well?2A00:23C6:D88E:8901:8D26:EB90:E621:5335 (talk) 07:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment : it’s great he has a lot of experience play roles on notable movies but I’m in stil in doubt if that stands a chance for subject to have a Wikipedia page since he fails the WP:GNG.--Gabrielt@lk 03:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also why you don't submit article for review? Theirs something fishy with the way you create articles. 13 years account creation with just 134 edit count.--Gabrielt@lk 03:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Chambers, Colin (2020). Black and Asian Theatre in Britain. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 9781134216895.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 01:13, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete : I was on patrol and i still met this page AFD once again. The subject fails WP:GNG. He has a IMDb profile that’s good for him. A Wikipedia page for him it’s not a must since he fails WP:GNG. Appearing on notable movies doesn’t still makes him suitable. @Silurian25:, just like what Winner 42 said. If you think they’re other articles like this, you can nominate them or you list them on my talk page for a check.--Gabriel (talk to me ) 23:38, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep : I think this is clearly a well sourced article about an actor. It has (currently) seven citations, two of which are from textbooks. There are stubs which have many fewer citations than this, and indeed much less content, and are retained as encyclopedic. To delete this perfectly serviceable article would be ridiculous, and would not serve the overall goal of the encyclopedia. Patr2016 (talk) 19:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • But all except possibly one of those seven citations do not meet the requirement of being significant coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. They are either unreliable web sites or only give Bisi-Pedro a name-check without providing any information. The possible exception is ISBN 9781840027631, which I can only see a snippet of on Google Books, but that snippet, and the extra content that I can see in a Google Books search, looks like an interview or quotation from him rather than anything that writes about him. I can find no other sources to expand on these. I have looked for both "Ilario Bisi-Pedro" and "Ilario Pedro". Phil Bridger (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.