Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Vine

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The result was no consensus‎. Limited participation after 3 relistings means this is closing as No consensus. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Vine

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Doesn't appear to be notable enough for its own article, seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:COMPOSER. The only sources I could find were his own website and a British Music Collection biography of him, the rest are mirrors. There were also 2? reviews from The Guardian, but at least the other one looked like a passing mention only. Perhaps a redirect to Royal Northern College of Music under 'Notable alumni' or 1974 in British music under 'Births'? NotAGenious (talk) 11:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Music. NotAGenious (talk) 11:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't remember why this person is on my watchlist, but here I am, not involved in the article writing. I found a review of a concert in Wigmore Hall (!) - possibly the one you allude to - which tells me the person deserves an article, and the suggested redirects make little sense to me. I won't have time until next week to look further. I added the review and another and the usual places (Discogs, AllMusic, IMDb) to the external links. Feel free to use. - I found now why he is on my watchlist: because I added a link to an ensemble in 2012. - Please add invitations to projects Classical musi and Composers if you haven't already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:30, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep. Might meet criterion 1 for notability of composers. "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." Seems to be the case with Radius (see Guardian review of the piece, currently on the page). Also works with the London Sinfonietta (see here) (NB-the same link was provided in the nomination above) (and this).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC) PS-Redirect to Royal Northern College of Music#Notable alumni may also be OK, I suppose. Just added a source there.[reply]
Keep based on the commissions for the London Sinfonietta and ensemble recherche, favorable reviews from The Guardian, and passing coverage in a collection of other sources. However the article has a promotional tone and the original creator might have WP:COI, so it should be updated if possible. - Indefensible (talk) 01:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Specific analysis of the available reference material would be helpful. Discussion of what the person has done is not.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:36, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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