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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:08, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Humble Hearts School[edit]

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No significant coverage exists for this school. Fails WP:ORG. Just saying this is the first school for the deaf in the country is not enough to satisfy guidelines. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 19:19, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disability-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Keep -- and please note that the claim of notability is not that Humble Hearts is the first school for the deaf, but the first bilingual school for the deaf, a stretch for notability in my view. The page, unreferenced and short, nevertheless has conflicting assertions (date of establishment for example). The school is covered just fine in Deaf education in Kenya, which itself is a pluperfect copypasta mess. Rhadow (talk)
  • Weak delete. Notability has nothing to do with being the first of something. Instead, we determine notability by significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. I found this but couldn't find any additional independent coverage. I'll happily change to a keep if more coverage can be found. Pburka (talk) 00:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • What? -- Being first at something is not notable? Chuck Yeager was the first to break the sound barrier. Now, quick, tell me who the second was. The Wright Brothers were the first to fly. How notable is number two? The first college in America: Harvard. Do you know number two? Rhadow (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect. I find enough to indicate that Humble Hearts School at least exists (or existed), and there may be more information in regional print publications that are not available online. It's hard to imagine there isn't more out there, especially considering the accidental bulldozing. A redirect to Deaf education in Kenya would help channel editors to improve the more general article, and Humble Hearts can later be split off if reliable sources are found. Jack N. Stock (talk) 01:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. I believe I have found enough reliable sources to suggest this school could be notable. Jack N. Stock (talk) 04:26, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Deaf education in Kenya. Logical redirect and redirects are cheap. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:37, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep no redirect. The edits by Jacknstock noted above are clearly independent notability for the school. AbstractIllusions (talk) 00:22, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep More than enough coverage is present in the current article as can be seen clearly in the references section.Egaoblai (talk) 03:19, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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