Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Head of the Donetsk People's Republic

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The result was merge to Donetsk People's Republic. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:35, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Head of the Donetsk People's Republic[edit]

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Not meeting WP:GNG Rsk6400 (talk) 06:04, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:04, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Russia, and Ukraine. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the Politics section of Donetsk People’s Republic. If its not already in the destination article, it would be good to transfer over the info about the progression of leaders in a merge, but if it’s already there, a simple redirect should suffice. HappyWith (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep This is a standard article listing an office holder. These pages exist for all of the heads of Russian Federal Subjects and the Governors of Ukrainian Oblasts as well as for the head of the LPR, and for a variety of other countries, entities and disputed polities. Unlike the pages prime ministers of the LPR and DPR, this page is sourced and documents a notable position. I would say that this page needs some work but deletion is overkill. Khronicle I (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a standard post in a standard federal subject of Russia, and I don’t think we have a guideline supporting the concept of such “standard articles” anyway. It’s now a pretend federal subject as part of the Russian occupation of Ukrainian territory, and for eight years it was even less. Sources treat it as such, as should we. —Michael Z. 16:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Standard as in common for a first level administrative division in a federal state, disputed or not. I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'pretend', the legality of the DPR is irrelevant to whether or not this page should exist, as similar pages exist for other disputed entities. The existance of this page is not an endorsement of the DPR or Russian annexation. It's disputed status could be reason to add a footnote similar to the ones on pages relating to Kosovo or Abkhazia. Khronicle I (talk) 11:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a "first level administrative division in a federal state" and there are no sources that state it is any such thing outside of Russian propaganda. An internationally condemned criminal syndicate operating in illegally occupied territory comes much closer to what IS RS state.[1], [2], [3], [4] // Timothy :: talk 03:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A JSTOR search for the term rendered No results. The article contains four sources dealing not with the office per se, but only with changes of the office holders. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Similar previous discussion which may be of interest to participants. Curbon7 (talk) 16:19, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A merge to Donetsk People's Republic would be a good WP:ATD, although there is also merit to the keep argument presented by Khronicle I. Curbon7 (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I think the arguments presented by Nomader are sound and rational. I would note that a merge here does not preclude re-creation of the article several years down the line, particularly if the DPR unfortunately remains a part of Russia at the conclusion of this war; best to wait until the dust settles in such a case. Curbon7 (talk) 04:27, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The sources don’t support notability of the subject as an article nor as a standalone list of appointed heads. —Michael Z. 16:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Donetsk People's Republic. This is a content fork in its present state from the other article -- I found surprisingly few articles about the position itself and only about the people who held them. Because of the small amount of leaders here, a merge should be a solid alternative to deletion, and the article should be able to be re-created if more sources are found for the position of the Head of the DPR from reliable sources or the list grows too large for disputed territory's page. Nomader (talk) 14:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Donetsk People's Republic per above. Unneeded poorly sourced CFORK that only exists to make readers chase links. // Timothy :: talk 03:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to DPR per Nomader. Khronicle I (talk) 13:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Merge to Donetsk People's Republic seems to be a good solution. Rsk6400 (talk) 05:31, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.