Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand Coalition for Fiji

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. References were added to the article since its nomination, no subsequent participants supported deletion, and the nominator suggested that they might withdraw the nomination if references were added. (non-admin closure) Enos733 (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Coalition for Fiji

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Without any reference, an Admin created the page. If references are added, the nomination might be withdrawn. My !Vote for DELETE for now. _{- Signed by}NeverTry4Me ^Talk 11:08, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Oceania. Shellwood (talk) 11:40, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a couple of references, just to show that they do exist. The RNZ source is good; not sure about the Political Handbook. This isn't at all my area of expertise, so I'm not planning on working further on the article.-gadfium 19:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep since the article now has five references. There is no doubt that the subject existed, and although the article is weak at present a few hours spent looking at archives of Fijian newspapers would undoubtedly provide rich sources. Such archives may only be available in Fiji, in print copies or microfiche. The online archives for e.g. Fiji Sun only go back to 2008.-gadfium 21:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added some sources. What bothers me about this article is the lack of explicit connection to the 2006 Fijian coup d'état, and leading up to it, this other page lacking citations: 2005–2006_Fijian_political_crisis. It's all notable and important, just definitely needs better sourcing. Barring that, it may make sense to just cut the article(s) down to what is verifiable and/or merging some of these pages. That said, searching for Oceania sources can be tricky depending on your geographic location, so you do have to try every search engine, every geo domain, etc. And/or borrow/acquire some books. (Some of the politicians' pages seem to have good sources listed.) Good luck. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Article has 12 sources now and many more inline citations. It turns out Fiji Times archives are easily accessed via Wikipedia Library. The article also quotes heavily from Fiji Village and Fiji Sun, and those citations still need to be added, but for the most part the actual copy within the article points to specific publications on specific dates (so there are clues about where to look and when). (It's unfortunate that those article links weren't added earlier; then we would have had archived versions of those pages.) I also edited some copy which was written in present tense; it looks like the page was first created and updated as events were unfolding. And finally, to address my previous concern, I added the "History of Fiji" template to the page, so at least there is some context as to where the story of this (short-lived) coalition fits in historically.
Cielquiparle (talk) 09:28, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.