Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Salamat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While I am sympathetic to Zagalejo's arguments, there is consensus to delete the article. This may be due to the difficulty English-speaking westerners to assess the coverage of the PBA, but the current notability consensus for basketball does not include the PBA (perhaps this should change). Malinaccier (talk) 00:56, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Salamat[edit]

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Fails WP:NBASKETBALL. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Happy holidays! ^{Babymissfortune} 09:06, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Happy holidays! ^{Babymissfortune} 09:07, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete does not meet notability guidelines for basketball players.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:21, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG; I'm not seeing enough significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL, as PBA is not one of the SNGs listed leagues.—Bagumba (talk) 15:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
delete Doesn't meet any notability standards and lacks the coverage required by WP:GNG. Sandals1 (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Wikipedia has massive amounts of unsourced content on Filipino basketball, but I do believe a lot of this material is salvageable. In the case of Salamat, I found this, this, and this, for starters, and there's probably more material out there somewhere. I suspect that there's a massive amount of print material on Filipino basketball that most Western editors will never see. (Some tantalizing evidence here.) There's probably a lot of additional material that was once available online, but has been lost to the ages (unless you know exactly where to look in the Internet Archive). It's clear that all of this data in the Wikipedia articles isn't being passed down by oral tradition! Zagalejo^^^ 18:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These sources seem like routine sports reporting and are all about his hopes to get back up to the PBA, which isn't even considered a top level league.Sandals1 (talk) 19:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

People keep citing WP:NBASKETBALL like it's holy scripture, but I think a case could be made for including the PBA. There is a fairly recent discussion about that here. In terms of talent, the PBA may not rank very high, but in terms of fan interest and media coverage, it's a reasonably significant league. The definition of "routine sports coverage" is a tricky one, but these articles at least go beyond the basic reporting of game scores and league transactions. Zagalejo^^^ 20:15, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's a personal call, but I don't think 3 short articles saying he wants to get back to the PBA meets WP:GNG. Sandals1 (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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