Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ende International Airport
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete as a hoax, by WP:SNOW. Bearian (talk) 21:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ende International Airport (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Appears to be a hoax. Claims that it replaces an older airport, but external links are actually for the older airport itself. (Don't know where the photo was found, but no indication it's of the airport claimed). Vandal has industriously edited many other articles to create fictitious flights here. Vardion 06:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The photo shows a Varig Boeing 707, which must be pretty old. --DAJF 06:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking at it more closely — is it even a photo? It looks more like a computer-generated image, maybe from a flight simulator program. -- Vardion 06:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Oh my, usually hoaxers don't take these elaborate steps for their article. Any recomendations for a new hobby? --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 07:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above as hoax. PP-VJY, delivered in 1969, was converted for Brazilian Air Force use in 1986.[1] Links indicate that Ende is H. Hasan Airport. Vehicles, buildings, and esp. lamp posts in image look like MS Flight Sim. • Gene93k 07:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This is a hoax. There was another user (now banned) called Victor N who made up false airport information in Indonesia about a week ago that look very similar to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.83.169 (talk) 12:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nomination. Comment: An anon IP added more unattributed content to the article, while another attempted a redirect to the true airport. I have reverted to E Wing's last edit, figuring the AfD needs to properly end. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete. It might be more believeable if somebody didn't give a "photo" of this airport's terminal building that looked remarkably like it was created in Photoshop. No information about this airport exists at this time other than blank accident profiles. Google turns up nothing on the airport code. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 19:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete. Extensive collection of airlines were edited, many of which do not/could not offer service to Erde, even if it existed. Suggest that the appropriate action is deletion under WP:SNOWBALL Ringbark (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Working with your idea of WP:SNOW. I've tagged the article with a generic {{db}} tag. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 23:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- someone has to close it before it can be deleted.DGG (talk) 23:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
HoldI found several references to this airport with a Google search on "Ende International Airport". I've listed them on the article's talk page. The first gives quite a bit of detail, including coordinates that match the article. Also there is a brief article on the indonesian Wikipedia about Ende "populasi ±250.000," which gives a location, Nusa Tenggara Timur, Indonesia, that matches the first link. This may not be a hoax.--agr (talk) 23:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Those are most likely referring to the real airport that is located there, H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport. V-train (talk) 23:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What I found (not WP:RS) says that Indonesia changed its ICAO codes. An outdated Google preview a document at icao.int says that WATE is ex-WRKE. Coordinates for WRKE and WATE match within a few seconds. • Gene93k (talk) 00:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Take a look at http://www.airportfact.com/c9723-ENE-WRKE-ende-east-nusa-tenggara.html It says the airport name is Ende and the FAA code is ENE, ICAO = WRKE.--agr (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is what I am referring to. It points to the same coordinates. I found the 2004 ICAO document here [2] (PDF - see page 6). Indonesia changed the ICAO codes for some of its airports. WRKE is the old code for WATE. As airportfact.com contradicts all other sources, I suggest it is out of date. • Gene93k (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Not to mention the hoax article doesn't even claim to have WRKE as its code, it says WATE, the same code as H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport. The Google Earth link on the airportfacts.com page also leads one to that airport. V-train (talk) 01:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect I agree they seem to be the same airport and the information in this article is not supported by references, but in that case there is no need for a delete action; a simple redirect to H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport will do.--agr (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Even the "International" part of the name is a hoax. It is not worth a redirect. No trace of its use beyond Wikipedia and it mirrors. The article links sources say H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport has a 5000 ft runway that doubles as a public road when planes are not using it. • Gene93k (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree it's not an international airport. --agr (talk) 18:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Even the "International" part of the name is a hoax. It is not worth a redirect. No trace of its use beyond Wikipedia and it mirrors. The article links sources say H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport has a 5000 ft runway that doubles as a public road when planes are not using it. • Gene93k (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect I agree they seem to be the same airport and the information in this article is not supported by references, but in that case there is no need for a delete action; a simple redirect to H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport will do.--agr (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Not to mention the hoax article doesn't even claim to have WRKE as its code, it says WATE, the same code as H. Hasan Aroeboesman Airport. The Google Earth link on the airportfacts.com page also leads one to that airport. V-train (talk) 01:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is what I am referring to. It points to the same coordinates. I found the 2004 ICAO document here [2] (PDF - see page 6). Indonesia changed the ICAO codes for some of its airports. WRKE is the old code for WATE. As airportfact.com contradicts all other sources, I suggest it is out of date. • Gene93k (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Take a look at http://www.airportfact.com/c9723-ENE-WRKE-ende-east-nusa-tenggara.html It says the airport name is Ende and the FAA code is ENE, ICAO = WRKE.--agr (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete Definitely a hoax. The "photo" looks like a recreation of the TWA terminal at JFK in some drawing program. I'm relatively sure Varig hasn't flown a 707 in decades. V-train (talk) 00:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The creator of this article also started Maunura, Indonesia and Maunura (I've redirected the former to the latter). A Google search indicates it is a real place but the editor added claims about Ende International Airport. I've given a final warning to the editor to stop his/her disruptive edits. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.