Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earlwood Saints

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The result was redirect to St. George Dragons#District Juniors. Or elsewhere, to be determined by editors. Sandstein 20:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Earlwood Saints

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Junior amateur rugby league team in Sydney. I am unable to find the slightest bit of info (besides their own Facebook page) online and therefore believe that it fails to meet the basic notability criterion. Pichpich (talk) 22:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I understand your point however there are a lot of other rugby league clubs with pages that have virtually no online sources as well (e.g. Zetland Magpies). Also Sports TG seems to have taken down all of their websites so their website is not operating at the moment. WDM10 (talk) 01:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:41, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to St. George Dragons#District Juniors. I cannot find anything that would come close to meeting GNG in its own right, or that there might be more references hiding somewhere. However, it is a likely search term and there is a good spot already existing to merge the lead into, and the notable players are already listed there too. The same might apply to some of the other, referred to OTHERSTUFFEXISTS too. Aoziwe (talk) 06:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

  I agree with this redirect moreso if it must be redirected as it lists the notable juniors of the club whereas the Sydney Combined Competition lists minimal information about the club. WDM10 (talk) 07:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

• This was a redirect to Sydney_Combined_Competition#District_clubs for four and a half years until 14 Jan; we should just restore the redirect. SportingFlyer T·C 07:02, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

  Agreed. Bookscale (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

  I understand the reason for redirection however I don't see how redirecting back to Sydney_Combined_Competition#District_clubs gives any real information about the club apart from where they play. The St George page however shows more information about the club which people will want to know about (e.g. former players). WDM10 (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

• A club should be redirected to the league they play in. The St. George Dragons have little to no association with this club, from what I can tell, and that article does not cover the club significantly enough for me to support changing the redirect there. SportingFlyer T·C 05:13, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

• These articles show that they play in the St George District competition as well and the St. George Dragons page also has details about the district competition as well. WDM10 (talk) 06:33, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

• That section is completely unsourced. Not a big NRL fan but it would be very strange to see a junior league on any Victorian AFL club page... SportingFlyer T·C 12:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

• It's a rugby league page. There's no AFL on it (ourfootyteam I assume you're talking about). WDM10 (talk) 19:07, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

And also, because they're in both competitions, it'd be better to just have their own page stating that instead of redirecting to one competition or another. WDM10 (talk) 23:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Looks like most NRL or former NRL teams have sections on the junior league in their area, but I still support the original redirect to the league they actually play in. My AFL reference was because I didn't understand how closely the junior leagues were tied with the senior club in Sydney. (As an aside, it also looks like a lot of NRL pages could use a decent amount of cleanup.) SportingFlyer T·C 01:22, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I understand. In NSW, the professional clubs run the juniors below and the young players are considered juniors of the club in which their junior club played in, even if they didn't play for the actual club itself. So most clubs in Sydney, including the Earlwood Saints, are part of a smaller association (like the St. George District Rugby League) and the Sydney Combined Competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WDM10 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

• Redirect to St. George Dragons#District Juniors (with {{R to section}} and {{R from subtopic}}) as a better option than the previous redirect to Sydney Combined Competition#District clubs. A merge would produce undue weight. The only possible non-trivial mention would be this book without a preview who's topic seems very unlikely to result in significant coverage of the unrelated Earlwood Saints. J947 ^(c), at 03:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is consensus to redirect this either to Sydney Combined Competition#District clubs or St. George Dragons#Districit Juniors. I'll relist this to get a better gauge of which one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:52, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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