Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dublin University Rifle Club

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The result was no consensus. – Joe (talk) 16:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dublin University Rifle Club[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG. All provided sources are affiliated with the subject, I was not able to find anything in online RS while doing a WP:BEFORE. The article's lone claim to notability is that it is supposedly Dublin University's oldest club, but no source is provided (previously, a citation to a revision of the Dublin University wikipedia page was provided, but that's not RS. That article cited [1], which doesn't appear to back up the claim based on a Google book search through its contents (and even if it did, that probably wouldn't demonstrate general notability for the subject in the absence of other reliable sources). _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. A better snippet result is obtained from the ref linked above by putting the search term in quotes. That puts a foundation date on the club, but does not, at least in that snippet, directly verify it is "the oldest". There is a lot of coverage in University Times [2][3][4]. They are a highly respected student newspaper, a lot more acceptable as a RS than the average student rag, but probably not independent enough for our purposes. There is a book source cited in the article, A History of Dublin University Rifle Club. That would be enough to get this past GNG if it comes from a respectable publisher. Unfortunately, I can't find any trace of its existence, except for this which names a different author and later publication date. Possibly there are two books, but I suspect both of them are self-published by the club. I'm inclined to give this one the benefit of the doubt, but I can't make a solid argument for GNG. SpinningSpark 10:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Trinity College, Dublin student organisations, the parent article, as an alternative to deletion. Lacks significant coverage by every measure and has nothing with a secondary source to merge. There is no evidence that "A History of Dublin University Rifle Club" was a book, and I'd sooner assume that it is a digital doc written by an officer of the club. Might be able to use the brief mention in A History of Trinity College, Dublin, 1892-1945 OCLC 292280. And of course the university's student paper cannot be used to demonstrate the independent notability of another student org. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 04:18, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 08:31, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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