Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dog Police

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The sources requested by Andrew have not materialised. Sandstein 05:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dog Police

Contested prod. This is an article about an obscure band from the early 1980's. They produced a bad music video which was posted on YouTube. The article says they gained notoriety -- but that's not really the case. The video has barely 100,000 views on YouTube, and while it is spectacularly bad, it's hardly notorious. 100,000 views is trivial on YouTube. Literally dozens of videos achieve that level of notoriety every day. More importantly, the rest of the article is unverifiable. The band is so obscure they don't even appear at AMG. I can't verify the claims in the trivia section. Or even verify that the album mentioned in the article actually exists. As far as I can tell, aside from this Wikipedia article virtually nothing has been written about this band. With no information whatsoever, this could easily be a recent hoax. --JayHenry 18:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To cite specific policies: fails WP:V and WP:NOR and probably most other policies as well. --JayHenry 18:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I remember seeing the video on MTV and this site backs up that MTV played it. Here's a site (PDF, page 15) showing that they're remembered well enough to inspire a basketball team's name. There's an Andrew Sullivan column in which the band is featured, but unfortunately it's not coming up for me just now to check the extent of the reference. I think that taking all the minor mentions together there's just enough to push the article over the threshold. But I love the irony of a band whose eponymous song includes the lyric "nobody knows who you are" being challenged on the grounds of being too obscure. Otto4711 19:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, are you joking? I thought this would be the first time that Otto and I agreed on a deletion. Hitler's dog with hundreds of mentions doesn't make it, but Dog Police does? Hahaha, I totally don't get it. The reference you provided describes the band as "unknown." --JayHenry 19:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Unknown" is clearly hyperbole on the part of the author, since obviously the band is known to have existed. Unlike Hitler's dog, at least as far as I knew until I saw the AFD. Regardless, the existence of the Blondi article and my opinion on it are not relevant to this article or my opinion on it. Otto4711 19:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I meant it lightheartedly, sorry. I wasn't suggesting it as deletion criteria. If we strip this down to what's verifiable right now we have "Dog Police" is a band from the eighties who had a song that was played on MTV." That's all we have verified, via a trivial NPR mention and a college newspaper. I just don't think that's enough. --JayHenry 19:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reads like the basis for a stub. Otto4711 19:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well boys and girls, Dog Police is real and the video is a true work of 21st century art.

You jealous folks should find other things to do with your time besides being critics. You can visit www.dogpolice.net but you cannot stop the Dog Police! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogpolice (talk • contribs) 21:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

Delete. I found the video hilarious, but unfortunately the band doesn't qualify as notable per WP:BAND, and there is insufficient verifiable material to sustain an article. EALacey 22:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak provisional keep I'm gonna say Keep if, and only if, a source can be found for the claim of having placed second on MTV's Basement Tapes contest. That along with having released an album pushes them just past WP:MUSIC in spirit if not quite in letter. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't verify that they actually did produce an album. That's what prompted me to prod it. There appears to be no record of it anywhere. The one link we do have above says they were never signed to a record label. So if they do have an album, it must have been self-released, which I thought didn't really count. --JayHenry 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can't really see that this 'band' fulfil WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC. YouTube does not equal notability. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 18:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.