Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Wright (writer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Wright (writer)[edit]

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Autobiography of a poet with no viable claims of notability other than having had poems published. (Note, his one book of poetry, Riverwalkers, was published by the company he founded.) The one link to a review of one his works is a permanently dead link to a Blogspot page. Google searches turn up nothing. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61

https://books.google.com/books/about/Riverwalkers.html?id=F02HoAEACAAJ Google Books

Emmy Nomination: The Orphan Mother - Emmy-Nominated Book Promo on Vimeo https://vimeo.com/261493975

Pulse of the Alt-Net: A Conversation with Steve Roggenbuck - The Murfreesboro Pulse

How do I site self-published sales figures that don't qualify for any of the best selling lists but which are so high for a poetry collection that it made my book Riverwalkers probably in the top 5 Best Selling self-published Poetry Books of the 21st Century so far? Over 15,000 copies sold since 2013. I have the sales ledgers from Ingram, WalMart, Barnes & Noble, and Target Online to Prove it. In an open-market capitalist society, sales are the definition of noteworthy. Sorry I didn't buy off the free press like all the Major Publishers do for their "noteworthy" writers. Sorry I don't have "news" stories to cite in Wikipedia.

This article has been active for 9 years with all the same cited information as it has today. That a qualitative an true narrative has bee added about the writers life today hasn't changed the nature of the references that have been active since June 2015. Can you help me understand how this could have gone overlooked for almost 9 years? Geraldine85 (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Yall Dont Remove this Article, yall will be complicit in the spreading of real news. Geraldine85 (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geraldine85: Your comments raise a few issue:

A link to the vimeo page for a book trailer, claiming that it was "Emmy-nominated" is not sufficient to verify that this film was actually ever nominated for an Emmy. (A link to the actual Emmy's website, listing the nomination, would be better. Note that a Google search for "Orphan Mother" +Emmy comes up empty.)
Even if we can verify that this film was nominated for an Emmy, there is no indication of what Wright's role was in this film, other than "appearing" in it. The article does not claim that Wright was the one who was nominated for the Emmy.
You don't self-cite sales figures. Unless they have been published in a reliable source, they are not useful at Wikipedia. Also, selling a lot of books is not part of the criteria for notable authors at Wikipedia. Significant, independent coverage in reliable sources is.
You write your arguments in the first person. Are you, Geraldine, actually David Wright? This would constitute a significant conflict of interest.

WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiDan! Is Dave Wright even a real person at all? I can't find a birth certificate to verify the bio claims. I have put in a request to the Office of vital Records in Davidson County, TN to see if we can even vet the existence of a Dave Wright.

I'm not convinced. Geraldine85 (talk) 14:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiDan! Wikipedia has been a primary target for hostile, fake "news" for about 10 years now. It is perhaps the most targeted website on the net. Subsequently, the number of completely fake articles that have made creative and effective use of aggregation techniques, et al, have made Wikipedia the unwitting foe of vetted, historical facts.

Those massive donation campaigns if years past seem to have been used elsewhere than infosec concerns.

So back to my... Dave's... this poet's Page. Created by Dlwright21 9 years ago... Should Can I help you vet?

Where should I begin? Geraldine85 (talk) 14:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Poetry and Tennessee. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NOTWEBHOST. I'm sorry to be rude, but the arguments made to keep this page are from 2006. In 2024, everybody knows what Wikipedia is, and is not. We are an encyclopedia of notable persons, places, things, and ideas; we have very strict requirements especially for living persons, to avoid defamation lawsuits and restrictive regulations like bills currently before the United States Congress and the UK parliament that want to destroy Wikipedia. We are a charity, not a free web host or social media website. There are lots of other options, from Youtube to "X", to Instagram, to get free coverage for poetry. Finally, we make it very well known that autobiographies, while not outright forbidden, are frowned upon, and are subject to especially strict scrutiny. In this particular case, there are zero reliable, independent, and national sources about the subject. For the record, we try to clean up false information as quicjkly as possible, but we are a volunteer-run charity. Bearian (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I couldn't find any reliable sources proving the subject's notability. This may be a case of "too soon," so once the subject has been covered by reliable sources I have no objection to the article existing. But for now, it's a delete.--SouthernNights (talk) 13:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.