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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete . The keep arguments don't sufficiently prove their point that the references fall in line with the general notability guideline, and the delete arguments are much stronger. I'll be willing to undelete if he makes a higher office, such as mayor or state legislator, in the future. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 17:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Ferrell[edit]

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Nom - This biographical aticle appears to be of local note only and thus fails our standards for biographical articles. Rklawton (talk) 00:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bold textb>Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 00:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Elected city council officials are notable. Article lists several sources. TN‑X-Man 13:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete Since when are city officials automatically notable? My reading of WP:POLITICIAN returns quite the opposite--only national and first-level sub-national (i.e. State Legislature, Governor, etc) would meet that. City council and "vice-mayor" don't even come close.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Unnotable goverment position. It's not even the guy's full time job. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete Vice Mayor isn't a notable position. Mayor-- maybe, vice, no. TheDJAtClubRock :-) (T/C) 19:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:POLITICIAN, and there is nothing extra in his life to compensate. SilkTork *YES! 13:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It does fail the WP:POLITICIAN criteria, if you consider local newspapers not to be valid in "significant press coverage," but it meets the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," in which case I think they would count. Obviously, for example, the New York City Council isn't going to get much coverage in Phoenix, Arizona, but this shouldn't preclude its members from inclusion just because it's local. Is it then a question of how lowly populated the municipality has to be? I guess if this article is deleted, I would advise that most of the articles linked from Metropolitan Council (Davidson County) be deleted as well. Daniel Bush (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply - following your logic, then everything covered in the local press would be worthy of an article in Wikipeida. However, that is obviously not the case. The article is about a politician, therefore, the notability requirements for a politician apply - and (as you noted) this politician fails that test at this time. Rklawton (talk) 13:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep county level politicians are notable as are city councilpersons of significantly large cities, if anything merge into an article about the current leadership of the jurisdiction.Myheartinchile (talk) 20:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wrong - this is about a county council member, not a city council member, and the difference in terms of budget and power are significant. And the standards don't say "large cities" the standards say "major metropolitan city". Nashville isn't even in the top 25 U.S. cities by popluation. Lastly, counties are only second level sub-national division, so he doesn't qualify on that front, either. Rklawton (talk) 15:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, he's both a county council member and a city council member. Nashville merged both governments together in 1963. He's also one of five members that represent all 650,000 or so Nashvillians. Nashville has the most city council members of all the major cities (The Tennessean considers it one), so if you were going by representation, the others should probably come next. If it helps, he was the editor of the Nashville Scene, which 1 in 13 Nashvillians read, going by circulation. Daniel Bush (talk) 19:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment doesn't matter. Two non-notables don't make a notable... the individual probably has a whole lot more non-noteworthy events in his life.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment don't care if it's city or county, neither meets the notability of "first-level sub-national" (i.e. state legislature, governor, etc). I'm not seing it for this position, and the lack of coverage in the news supports that this is not an exception to any notability guidelines.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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