Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centre Square Kochi

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The result was redirect to List of shopping malls in India#Kerala. (non-admin closure) Red Phoenix ^talk 02:41, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Centre Square Kochi[edit]

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Non-notable mall. Page is largely unreferenced and fails WP:YELLOWPAGES. Correct outcome is probably Delete and redirect to List of shopping malls in India#Kerala. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom's rationale. Not enough in-depth coverage to show it passes WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:55, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 16:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 16:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Barkeep49 @User:onel5969 - What do you mean by non-notable mall & page is unreferenced? It's the second largest mall in Kochi and is much bigger and more notable than most of the malls listed in List of shopping malls in India. So what's with the bias? Moreover all the statements made on the page is already cited with credible references including the Ministry of Environment, Forest and Climate Change. Please show me a single statement in the article which is unreferenced. There are hundreds of articles of less significant malls with not enough references. Shady59 (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Shady59: When nominated the features and location sections were unreferenced. You've now added a for the list of features. By non-notable I mean it doesn't pass Wikipedia's definition of notable. Article continues to lack (and my WP:BEFORE suggests that it will be hard to find) multiple significant independent reliable secondary sources. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely what Barkeep49 said. And WP:OSE is not a valid argument in this case. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:26, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Barkeep49 @User:onel5969 The only thing I added since was the reference to the features. The others were already there. You need to check the revision history. And of course WP:OSE matter here, since the article is clearly fully referenced and removing it would be a plain bias on WP:N. If this article fails WP:N, then more than half of the articles in Lists of shopping malls would fail WP:N desperately. And moreover, WP:N too is clearly subjective. It just needs WP:NRV and the article passes that.
The mall itself was the subject of discussion in Kerala last year when an accident happened in the lift leading to the multiplex and the Kerala Fire And Rescue Services ordered the mall authorities to temporarily shutdown the multiplex. There was a legal fight going on with mall authorities and the Kerala Fire And Rescue Services that even the District Collector came to the scene and the High Court of Kerala had to intervene. It was all over the news at that time. I'm preparing the write-up in order to add all those to the article. Shady59 (talk) 17:12, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to reconsider based on new sources. I will point out a crucial quote from WP:NRV there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability. (emphasis mine). This is what I am suggesting it lacks (and a standard it can't meet). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to List of shopping malls in India#Kerala as per nom's rationale. I agree that the passing mention does not justify a WP:SIGCOV there are some news items about fire safety and height violation. but that does not justify notability. All malls are not notable. delete per WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES--DBig Xrayᗙ 21:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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