Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caroline Tran

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 19:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caroline Tran[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a radio broadcaster, not properly sourced as passing notability criteria for radio broadcasters.
The notability claim here, that she's been an announcer for national radio networks in Australia, would be fine if the article were demonstrating that she passes WP:GNG for it -- but notability doesn't vest in doing stuff per se, it vests in the amount of third-party journalistic coverage she did or didn't receive about the stuff she did to establish that it's been externally validated as significant, so just existing as a radio host is not "inherently" notable without sourcing for it. But this is completely unsourced, and has an overall writing tone strongly suggestive of somebody just doing a thinly veiled rewrite of her staff profile on the self-published website of her own employer (which was, predictably, the sole "source" ever previously cited here, until it got removed as a deadlink, but was never proper support for notability as it isn't independent of her).
As the content here hinges entirely on stuff that happened between 1999 and 2010, with no further updates in the past 14 years, I'm willing to withdraw this if someone with much better access than I've got to archived Australian media coverage from the naughts can find enough proper coverage to salvage it, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to pass GNG on the sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 13:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Australia. Bearcat (talk) 13:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Wedding photographer with the same name from Los Angeles is about all I can find, I don't see anything for a radio person in Australia. Delete for lack of sourcing and this article has ZERO sources. Oaktree b (talk) 14:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Vietnam. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There are a number of sources out their but nothing providing SIGCOV and nothing independent. — GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unreferenced BLP. LibStar (talk) 10:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Below is some of the coverage to be found in Newsbank. Just good enough for GNG. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wilmoth, Peter (3 December 1998), "Awestruck rookie is Triple J's evening star", The Age

Article on her getting 6pm-to-10pm slot on Triple J. Includes background eg Leaving Vietnam at 3, graduated from the Australian Film, Television and Radio School in August 98. Lots of quotes but IMO still good.

Dent, Jackie (5 December 1998), "No JOK: new name grabs a groovy shift on Triple J", The Sydney Morning Herald

Article on her getting 6pm-to-10pm slot on Triple J. Similar to above

Farouque, Farah (19 August 1999), "DJs of diversity overcome adversity - RADIO - Radio waves", The Age

Article about her and Simon Diaz (TT FM) reflecting "an emerging ethnic diversity on Melbourne's airwaves."

Jones, Kate (14 February 2001), "From refugee to ABC headliner", Stonnington Leader

Also published in other similar mastheads. Profile of Tran

Farouque, Farah (3 December 1998), "ABC spends its Summer in Sydney - Radio Waves", The Age

Four paragraphs in general roundup, is about getting above job.

Delete Promo BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and above do not meet WP:SIRS, containing SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from neutral independent reliable sources. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 12:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How are the sources not good enough and what does the notability guidelines for companies have anything to do with this person? duffbeerforme (talk) 23:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Besides no allegation of notability, we routinely delete articles about non-drive time radio DJs. Bearian (talk) 18:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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