Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carnival Ride Tour

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete as Wikipedia is not Pollstar - that means not a concert announcement site.--JForget 23:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carnival Ride Tour

Delete. Tour itself is not notable, content is nothing more than tour dates and setlist, so WP:IINFO applies Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 01:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unsourced and indiscriminate. Individual tours don't usually merit articles. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Closing admin, please don't forget the category. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 03:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Not notable, no sources. Black ngold29 06:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per WP:OUTCOMES#Music. LonelyBeacon (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Rwiggum Sceptre ^(talk) 15:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom ukexpat (talk) 19:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I think that I am going to suggest delete for all tours unless there's a particularly special one somewhere. Myrrideon (talk) 20:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Yes I think we have a wider policy/guideline issue here. Where's the best place to open a discussion - the WP:MUSIC talk page? – ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I couldn't agree more .... it is an area that could use clarification, even if my particular viewpoint is not held up by the community. I would also advise WP:MUSIC. LonelyBeacon (talk) 22:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Deletion of all tours? Including The Rolling Stones American Tour 1969? Zoo TV Tour? Blond Ambition World Tour? Rolling Thunder Revue? Bruce Springsteen with The Seeger Sessions Band Tour? The Beatles' 1965 USA Tour? And so forth, there are many very good tour articles out there, these are just a few examples. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone, including me, is saying that "all tours" should be deleted. What I think we are saying is that there should be a more clear statement on what delineates "notable tour" from "non-notable tour". To clarify my position, I think that tours are rarely notable. That is likely one side of a fringe belief (the other being: since all tours are invariably written about somewhere, all tours are inherently notable). I would not enforce my belief on the community, even though that seems to be the general direction the community is leaning. Rather, I think the policy should be clarified to avoid having to go through gut wrenching AfD's that can get contentious, and to avoid having people spend time making articles that may eventually get deleted. If the notability parameters are clarified, that should ease up some of the problems. LonelyBeacon (talk) 01:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - that is, if I may say so, an excellent summary of the issue. – ukexpat (talk) 02:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.