Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Wambach

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Wambach[edit]

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Biography of an athlete who holds (or held at the time the article was written) a national record for master-level high jump (80-84 yr old class). This hardly qualifies under WP:ATHLETE as competing at the highest amateur level. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- -- Cirt (talk) 21:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. —WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:41, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - a national level record for his age group is insufficient to meet WP:ATHLETE. Coverage about his achievement does exist. See [1], [2] for a couple of examples. But aside from this one event, there's no coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I rewrote the article to make it more encyclopedic in format, and I added a couple of references. I think he may just qualify as notable. --MelanieN (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: I think the sources are sufficient for him to jump over the WP:BASIC bar. bobrayner (talk) 02:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE since he's purely a lower-level amateur athlete. He competed in the Badger State Games, which is an amateur level here in Wisconsin. Not the highest level even in the United States, a higher level in a state. There are no national-level sources. One source is from his hometown and one from the place where the games are held. Royal broil 02:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per improvements by MelanieN.--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE. The bar is literally set too low when the notability is based on a competition for 80 year old jumpers. Someone might be a remarkably good jumper for someone very old, but winning a championship among such low absolute ability competitors would not justify an article, since it is not "the highest level of competition." Edison (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems interesting to me what is the height that leading 80 year old can jump. 4.5 feet or so, interesting to contemplate. Suggest only editors who can do that, should be allowed to vote to delete.ur That means propelling your whole body over a bar that high, not so easy, probably not possible for any of us! Article is well-written and -sourced. --Doncram (talk) 06:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I can't high jump that well, nor do I snowboard cross or javelin throw. But that doesn't mean I am unable to apply policy and guideline. -- Whpq (talk) 14:05, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.