Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Seward

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Delete since Ungcel's valiant search for sources produced nothing substantial. Dravecky claims notability but cannot, unfortunately, produce evidence of it. Drmies (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Seward[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Tagged for notability for over 5 years; I couldn't establish notability. Boleyn (talk)

Delete or Rewrite - Of the three references in this article, only the one about The Monk TV series had a working link to it. However, it never mentioned Bill Seward. The link to Internet Movie Databas does say something about Seward and it should have been listed as a reference. I searched the internet and found significant information about Seward. If this article is to remain in Wikipedia, the author needs to use this new info to rewrite the article. Unless this is done, I will not change my vote, as the article references no valid sources. Bill Pollard (talk) 11:37, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The Monk information that you missed was in fact in the episode cast and crew section. Uncle G (talk) 10:42, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One major problem with this article is that it started off as a straight lift of the promotional autobiography written at the IMDB, by one "BILL SEWARD", and has only been touched up in the five years since. Another copy of the promotional autobiography, complete with the same "Seward lives in Los Angeles with his wife and three children.", can be found here in the lead to an interview that pre-dates our article by a year. That, in turn, says that it took it from the promotional bio on an NBC WWW site. A promotional bio on an NBC WWW site, now a dead link as noted, was one of the same sources that was added here. Wpollard's I-searched-and-found-sources-so-delete argument isn't exactly convincing by itself, given deletion policy. But the fact that over five years even a good faith attempt to add sources by someone in 2010 ends up with another copy of the same single promotional autobiography is certainly a strong indicator that no independent sources exist.
My quick searches for sources turned up Waters 1993, some further brief mentions in items during 1999–2000 in the Times and the Daily News of Los Angeles, and a listing in a telephone directory of television people. This person's life and work don't appear to have garnered independent documentation in the decade since.
- Waters, Sean (1993-07-22). "Now He Talks a Good Game Media: Former St. Bernard High football Coach Bill Seward has found success in radio and TV". Los Angeles Times.
Uncle G (talk) 10:42, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Neutrality^talk 11:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a five-year former anchor for ESPNews along with other high-profile sportscaster roles with the Los Angeles Dodgers Radio Network, in Los Angeles radio, and other positions, many in a time perioff without easily searched online news archives. His roles in TV shows and movies are not individually significant, but his real-life career is notable. - Dravecky (talk) 22:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, they are easily searched. How otherwise do you think that I found Waters 1993? If the subject's career is notable, please point to where the world has noted it in the decade since those brief mentions during 1999–2000 that I mentioned. That decade is also easily searched. Yet here we are with multiple copies of the same single promotional autobiography, as both sources and article, and zero evidence, despite the ease of searching for news archives of the past decade, that your unsupported claim of notability has ever been borne out in practice. Uncle G (talk) 21:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.