Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Altani

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The result was merge‎ to Tolui. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:18, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Altani[edit]

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A 13th century violation of WP:BIO1E, not notable for more than a single event, the attempted kidnapping of Genghis Khan's son Tolui, her participation in which is disputed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, History, Royalty and nobility, and Mongolia. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, she exists, but what's here is basically a rehashing from whatever historical text that talks about her [1]. I can't see how this makes her notable. That's all that seems to be written, she grabbed the knife and saved the kid. Oaktree b (talk) 00:23, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Tolui: With the very large caveat that I have no knowledge of Mongolian and thus am unable to search for this in Mongolian, I cannot find much coverage of Altani beyond what is in this article, which is rather humorously yet accurately described by nom as a 13th century WP:BIO1E. Having said that, this can probably be merged a bit more thoroughly into the Tolui article than it currently is. TartarTorte 00:23, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as above is fine, or even insert this brief "anecdote"? into the Gengis Khan article. Oaktree b (talk) 00:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: As stated above, doesn't need to be its own article given its so limited. TheBritinator (talk) 11:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Not convinced there is any content here worth merging. It is essentially based on a single primary source (The Secret History of the Mongols). Redirecting to Tolui may suffice. (Did search for secondary sources like this article in JSTOR – essentially a passing mention which makes it clear the accuracy of the main source is contested.) Cielquiparle (talk) 11:38, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.