Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abraham Sie

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 06:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Sie[edit]

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Fails WP:NBASKETBALL. Geschichte (talk) 09:46, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Failing WP:NBASKETBALL is not grounds for deletion, the real question is whether he fails WP:GNG. Was a search for sources, preferably including in the Ivorian media, conducted before the nomination per WP:BEFORE? Alvaldi (talk) 17:46, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage of sports below the top level of the sport in question, will usually be trivial and therefore fail WP:SIGCOV. Geschichte (talk) 18:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is just incorrect. There are countless of athletes, basketball players or others, who receive plenty of significant coverage despite failing WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NFOOTBALL or any of the other sports-specific notability guidelines. WP:NSPORT, which WP:NBASKETBALL is a section of, clearly states in its own FAQ that failing one of the SNG's is not grounds for deletion as all subject, reglardless of whether they pass a SNG, have to pass the general notability guideline. Maybe Abraham Sie doesn't pass WP:GNG and if you would have nominated him for failing WP:GNG after being unable to find sources I might have voted delete. But not bothering to conduct a WP:BEFORE on a subject from a non-english speaking country (to prevent a WP:BIAS) who has played for his national teams and professionally in two top-tier national leagues is not good practice. Alvaldi (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm finding some sources, for example [1] [2] [3] [4] so I feel he meets GNG. Playing for a national team is certainly a plus. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:42, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 02:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Sie is both a national team player and plays in the Basketball Africa League, which is an important and relevant league. --H-Hurry (talk) 19:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:52, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.