Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4. Liga (Slovakia)

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination appears to be based on a misunderstanding of notability. I have blocked the nominator for general competence issues. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 03:06, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

4. Liga (Slovakia)[edit]

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Not notable Michael H (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure it is likely notable as the fourth tier in a European footballing country, even just as a stub. Just need to source it. SportingFlyer T·C 16:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
it very unlikely notable, its not even a proffesional league...there should be some sources of notability, when they are not its mostly likely not notable Michael H (talk) 16:38, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sources doesnt equal notability evidence Michael H (talk) 17:04, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's not how it works, if the league's been significantly covered in secondary sources we can have an article on it. Not every league is notable but fourth-tier leagues generally are covered. SportingFlyer T·C 21:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
even secondary sources have to notable a bit i think Michael H (talk) 22:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see WP:SIGCOV Michael H (talk) 22:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you do any sort of WP:BEFORE search before you nominated? For instance [1] is a portal for news about the 4. liga for Bratislava, this is a season preview article, [2] is a season preview article from last year - all leagues have season preview articles, showing this passes WP:GNG and needs content creation. I'd recommend not sending any more articles to AfD until you're comfortable with the process. SportingFlyer T·C 22:46, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1 is a 3 years inactive website which doesnt provide current notability, second is a site that covers all leagues in slovakia but that articles are likely not really popular outside the ''4th league community'' Michael H (talk) 10:22, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Popularity doesn't matter, all that matters is that there are enough sources for us to write a neutral and verifiable encyclopaedia article, which is clearly the case here. SportingFlyer T·C 19:40, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
popularity matters when deciding whenever it is notable enough for a wikipedia article and whenever these sources are reliable Michael H (talk) 20:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. See the text and references in the corresponding Slovakian Wikipedia article at https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/4._liga Eastmain (talk • contribs) 16:51, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
nothing there is an evidence of notability Michael H (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Slovakia. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Eastmain - nominator has not given any explanation of why it is non-notable, and there is clearly sourcing out there. At least it should be a redirect to Football in Slovakia. Giant Snowman 10:04, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
no reason for that redirect, and i cant say why its not notable, because that means there are NO sources of notability, the links are just competition results and draws etc. from their websites, that doesnt warrant notability Michael H (talk) 10:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Enough sources on original Slovak article. They just need carrying over to the English one and marking as being in the Slovak language. Easy enough job, no need for deletion. Besides, a translation of some of the information on the Slovak article would bulk it
up a bit, it's all verifiable and notable. Greeny908 (talk) 23:44, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

do you have any sources of notability? Michael H (talk) 23:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.