Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 International Rules Series

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The result was keep. ~riley's comment capture the consensus - keep for now, without prejudice against a future merge or redirect. Mojo Hand (talk) 14:43, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 International Rules Series[edit]

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Event has been canceled due to coronavirus.^[1] The nature of the International Rules series as an occasional (i.e. non-regular) event which was seven months away and in this case hadn't even had venues selected yet is such that I don't think it warrants retaining the whole article just to say the event was canceled. Comments in the relevant AFL and GAA season pages, plus International Rules Series should be enough to capture the event's cancellation with commensurate importance. Plus with no event actually taking place, there's nothing other than WP: ROUTINE coverage of a canceled event's potential existence left, which doesn't satisfy GNG. Aspirex (talk) 21:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Glenn McFarlane (5 April 2020). "AFL calls off International Rules series this year, with doubts on its future viability". Herald Sun. Retrieved 5 April 2020.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, the event has been cancelled sure, but this is clearly something that passes WP:GNG. The article already contains in-depth information published months apart from reliable secondary sources, and there is tons more out there. There is clearly enough here to form a good enough article, and the information present within the article would not be appropriate when merged to either the AFL or GAA season page, since it has no relation to either of those events. A merge to International Rules Series is also not appropriate, as the information here would be out of place there as well. Devonian Wombat (talk) 22:17, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how a sentence stating "a series was scheduled in 2020 but cancelled due to coronavirus" could be out of place in the IR series article. Aspirex (talk) 01:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have you even read the article? It contains a lot more than "a series was scheduled in 2020 but cancelled due to coronavirus". Clearly a lot more than that is backed up by reliable secondary sources, and deleting that information just because the event they were covering ended up not happening is not the right course of action. Devonian Wombat (talk) 02:51, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've read the article. Nothing in it which covers the topic directly is from a source which would not be considered routine coverage. Whether it's months apart, from different sources or otherwise, there's still just articles stating that an event is going to happen, which is not enough to establish GNG. The 'routine coverage' policy is meant to get away from this notion that something meets GNG just because news services acknowledge its existence (or in this case, potential existence). The fact that there is peripheral content about hurling exhibitions and Bloody Sunday memorials does not establish the notability of the actual core topic of the article. Aspirex (talk) 04:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to International Rules Series#History, per nom. – Teratix ₵ 12:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'd think at the very minimum there would be enough out there in the world regarding the cancellation and its larger impact to fill the article even if there are no games. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 16:35, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Firm keep. This had been a long time in the planning. It is not entirely clear that all events have been cancelled. There has, for instance, been much prolonged and detailed discussion of the centenary challenge match in national media. Also the following quotes should deter any hasty deletion: "That commemoration is still expected to go ahead, possibly with another game added" and "Hopefully an agreement can be made over new dates..." There is also the precedent set by other international events cancelled due to the virus, such as Eurovision Song Contest 2020, which is still intact. To sum up, while we know the AFL won't travel, we don't yet know that nothing will take place. That something, which given the importance of the centenary is quite likely, would then have to be created - with much of this page forming the background. Best wait until at least year's end and then, if renaming is necessary, do that. --Bygmester (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - when we're drawing direct parallels between the biggest annual television event in Europe canceled two months out with 41 songs already selected mostly from independently notable national finals, and a sporadically staged two-nation tournament canceled eight months out that is mildly popular at best and for which only the dates had been chosen - anyway, clearly this is going to be a keep for now. But I expect a less controversial merge and redirect elsewhere in the future once we know whether this is rescheduled or not. Aspirex (talk) 01:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for now. Considerable change for merge or redirect down the road per Aspirex. ~riley (talk) 01:22, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[1] Glenn McFarlane (5 April 2020). "AFL calls off International Rules series this year, with doubts on its future viability". Herald Sun. Retrieved 5 April 2020.

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