Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020–21 United States network television schedule

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The result was speedy keep. Snow keep. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020–21 United States network television schedule

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This is a television guide and not encyclopedic content. It totally fits the description of what Wikipedia is not. Furthermore, it's not neutral, as it only advertises the content 5 networks.SFBB (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Point 4 of WP:DIRECTORY explicitly mentions that it does not belong to Wikipedia. SFBB (talk) 12:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This network schedule page is a continuation of the yearly schedule for television that has a page for every year since the 1946-47 TV season. If this page gets deleted, then every year must be deleted. Are you arguing just for this season or all 70+ pages? Donaldd23 (talk) 13:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In addition, the reason it only contains the 5 networks is because the name is Network Schedule. To include other channels such as HBO or Netflix wouldn't make it any less "neutral", it is a detailed summary of network programming. This page is not advertising. Donaldd23 (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, after multiple long-running discussions indicating that there is a strong consensus to keep these, and that they do not violate WP:NOTTVGUIDE and provide encyclopedic content. That said, draftify 2021–22 United States network television schedule as per WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:TOOSOON. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this article and draftify 2021–22 United States network television schedule per IJBall. TheTVExpert (talk) 15:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this article, draftify 2021–22 United States network television schedule per IJBall. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How come it does not violate WP:NOTTVGUIDE? it is precisely what it is. If this would not violate WP:NOTTVGUIDE, then how would something violating WP:NOTTVGUIDE look like?

If you'd like to create encyclopedic content on the shows broadcasted in the US, you don't need to include a schedule and, also, you need to cover all shows, no only shows broadcasted by 5 networks. Who decide, why the shows aired by these networks are included and not other shows? This is bad at so many levels.SFBB (talk) 15:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep This is not a day-by-day listing of every single program aired during a year. The terms "fall TV season" and "spring TV season", for example, are commonly referred to by reliable sources. Only programs that air roughly three or more episodes in a timeslot are listed. I would have to say though that in recent years I feel some editors have crossed this line by writing notes below the tables listing single-day or single-timeslot events/sports programs which, in my opinion, aren't really related to a TV season schedule. Nonetheless, by only including the 5 major US TV networks, this article furthers the fact it's not an indiscriminate list or a TV guide. I do agree that 2021–22 United States network television schedule should be a draft, preferably until a network announces their schedule for the season, most likely in May 2021. Heartfox (talk) 15:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to say that I believe the "historically significant program lists" clause in WP:NOTTVGUIDE refers to this and other articles perfectly. Many media outlets make reference to TV seasons. For example, "the 1975–76 TV season was when the networks had the highest share of viewers"... or something like that. Then, a reader could find this schedule on Wikipedia and see what shows were broadcast at the time. It also serves well as a navigational tool, which is beneficial as it links in and out to other TV show articles. This and other similar articles are for historical purposes, not advertising. Heartfox (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this article because it doesn't violate WP:NOTTVGUIDE, but definitely draftify 2021–22 United States network television schedule. — YoungForever^(talk) 15:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the previous comments, and the fact that we have like 74 past TV seasons covered in the same manner.— TAnthony^Talk 15:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Network schedules are significant because they contribute to an understanding of the history of television programming. They're not created as a guide for people to see what's airing now — there are much better online sources for that. They're created to be historical documentation. 2020-21 isn't historical yet, but it will be. To choose an example at random, 1956–57 United States network television schedule is clearly relevant for the history of television, and is not a TV guide. — Toughpigs (talk) 15:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep per all previous comments. We have been making these articles for years, and the fact that this is being targeted for deletion now after all this time is quite frankly a pointless discussion. JE98 (talk) 19:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep This is absurd. Perhaps the nominator might want to familiarize hin/herself with the structure of American television before proposing deleting an article about the network schedule. --Dr.Margi ✉ 19:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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