Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 Northern Fury FC season

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Northern Fury FC season[edit]

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Seasons of a semi-professional club playing in a not fully-professional league. Doesn't pass WP:NSEASONS. Also is not referenced and most of the matches don't have reports linked either. SuperJew (talk) 17:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are the following two seasons of same club in the same league, and aren't notable for the same reason, as well as also being almost completely unreferenced:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. SuperJew (talk) 17:32, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. SuperJew (talk) 17:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I don't understand why this wasn't brought up months back when I brought up the idea of making the missing articles here (they could have the necessary references added). Subsequently, Northern Fury were initially created as a top level A-League club, making their top flight season articles "notable". As for their articles with them in the second highest tier of Australian football, I think there's enough notability to warrant their season articles being kept, especially without fear of them being relegated further into the abyss of non-notability. - J man708 (talk) 19:40, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Must of gone unnoticed. Also, the discussion regarding starting new season pages for NPL/Youth teams made me think about this one too. No argument that the seasons when they were in the A-League are notable and that is why I didn't bring those seasons up in the deletion nomination. Sorry, but the second highest tier of Australian football is not fully professional, and therefore not notable enough for seasons. --SuperJew (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but believe it or not, subjects can pass GNG while failing their respective field's Wikipedia guidelines. Panos Armenakas and Jake Brimmer for example. You don't have to be such a deletionist about everything... Why not try to fix it, first? - J man708 (talk) 20:54, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as they fail WP:NSEASONS. The club's seasons in the top division are undoubtedly notable, but these are not. It was actually pointed out when this was raised on the taskforce page that these may not meet the required notability standards; I would suggest a better place to ask questions on notability would be the main WT:FOOTY page where more editors will be able to give input. Number 5 7 08:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 15:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 18:44, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - there's nothing in WP:NSEASONS that talks about fully professional teams or leagues. On the subject of professionality, is uses the term "professsional" rather than "fully-professional" which is the requirement for players. Nfitz (talk) 23:22, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Verbatim quote (emphasis added by me): Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements. --SuperJew (talk) 11:30, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely, It doesn't say top fully-professional leagues. Nfitz (talk) 23:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nfitz, how does this meet notability? There are no references apart from WP:ROUTINE, and even those are lacking. --SuperJew (talk) 21:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If we used THAT standard, we'd be deleting seasons articles for Premier League teams! It meets WP:NSEASONS. Nfitz (talk) 21:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. They all fail WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS. As Super Jew says, NSEASONS stipulates that individual season article should be only created for teams in "top professional league". NPL QLD is neither "top" nor "professional". 2014 Northern Fury FC season is unreferenced and I can find no sources that are not routine, reliable and in-depth so that the articles pass WP:GNG. The same goes for the other articles. Nfitz's rationale is nothing to do with the articles and more based on perceived inconsistencies in the policies. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 00:49, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per Yellow Dingo. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:43, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - all fail NSEASONS, club has not been competing in a top professional league. Fenix down (talk) 12:51, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The league IS professional, and it is a top league, only one-level below fully-profesional. Nfitz (talk) 21:18, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all - per WP:NSEASONS Spiderone 11:23, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.