Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Beninese coup attempt

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The result was merge‎ to Thomas Boni Yayi#Presidency. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:37, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2013 Beninese coup attempt[edit]

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Per WP:NOTNEWS. The article's content only focuses on background and arrests, without any mention of the alleged coup plans. This is even more important considering that the article does not make any mention regarding a trial, proof or convictions. The essay WP:COUP is worth remembering too for the same reason. Likewise, the page was previously deleted as a redirect in 2022 (Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 8#2017 Equatoguinean coup d'état attempt). NoonIcarus (talk) 12:23, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Politics, and Africa. NoonIcarus (talk) 12:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 13:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. An alleged coup doesn't quite fit in the routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities described by WP:NOTNEWS. At the same time, the nom is right in that information about this event is scarce. However, there's a good paragraph on the alleged coup and its consequences in Freedom House's 2014 Freedom in the World, and there are a few more sources like here [1] and on the French article, which IMO make this coup pass WP:SUSTAINED by some margin (coverage is from March to October in the press, and Freedom House comes out in 2014). The alternative would be to merge this content elsewhere, although this standalone page seems the most appropriate place for this information to remain for now. Pilaz (talk) 01:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Thomas Boni Yayi#Presidency, where the event is not really addressed. Not really much of a coup attempt IMHO, although we do have a whole article about that time someone threw a shoe at George W. Bush, which seems on par but obviously WP:OSE. Folly Mox (talk) 18:47, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Folly Mox. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:04, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge as WP:NOPAGE seems about right for the current structure of the two articles. While I agree SUSTAINED is probably satisfied, I think the COUP essay does have a good point here, in that reliable sources seem to hedge on calling it a coup attempt (alleged, scare quotes, etc). If multiple RS were to call it an attempted coup in their own voice, then I'd consider keep, though NOPAGE still might argue the two topics are better together. —siro χ o 03:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.