Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1911 Wisła Kraków season

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1911 Wisła Kraków season

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Possibly fails WP:NSEASONS as it hasn't been improved enough to be deemed notable. Also listing these articles for the same reason.

1912 Wisła Kraków season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1913 Wisła Kraków season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1914 Wisła Kraków season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) HawkAussie (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 23:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all WP:PRESERVE not sure how the nominator hopes that we can update these when they are 100+ years old. WP:ATD and WP:NOTCLEANUP. Lightburst (talk) 23:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom, no evidence of notability. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1906 Wisła Kraków season. Giant Snowman 11:41, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Low participation at AfDs. In any event WP:LOCALCONSENSUS can change. Lightburst (talk) 15:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"it hasn't been improved enough to be deemed notable" - what does that even mean? A subject is either notable or it isn't, an article can't be "improved" to make a non-notable subject notable, and a notable subject is notable even if the standard of the article is poor.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:46, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. "[The article] hasn't been improved enough to be deemed notable". As a logical extension of that argument, we should have no new articles. If the article doesn't exist, the topic is not notable. Narky Blert (talk) 12:13, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude and Narky Blert: I think what the nominator meant was that "there is so little information/sources about these articles that it cannot be extended beyond what it currently is" or similar. Giant Snowman 11:50, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: Yeah that is what I meant so you can't really use WP:PRESERVE when their is no resources to add to this page. HawkAussie (talk) 05:37, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 10:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. Lightburst's argument does not hold since there is nothing be preserved here as it's referenced only to a fan wikia, and there is no appropriate page to WP:ATD redirect these since Wisła Kraków has no mentions or seasons sections. As every of these fail WP:V (I am unable to find reliable references to support the article and is a policy), and WP:GNG (there is no significant coverage in reliable sources in my searches), plus Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1906 Wisła Kraków season which was attended properly... delete is the only choice here. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all – per nom, GS and jovan, to which I'll add: WP:NOTSTATS. We don't need and shouldn't have stand-alone pages about football seasons for which we do not have reliable, independent secondary sources that allow us to write prose, as WP:NSEASONS guides us to do. Pages listing games and scores without prose are not for Wikipedia. I'm all about a football almanac wiki on the web, but not on enwiki. – Levivich 05:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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