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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

added Clovermoss
readded Dennis Brown
removed

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Political bosses[edit]

Hey, thanks for your edits on William McKinley. It's the first time I've seen this term, and it was in quotes in the Platt article. Sometimes these terms are used in quotes if they are not in common use anymore. The article for political boss was not helpful for my understanding this article, and that seems important, so maybe I will work on that instead. My main source of confusion is fixed in the article now after your edits, so I don't think we need anymore talk page for the time being. Cheers, Eunomia libri (talk) 23:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your interest. I think the term derives from Boss Tweed. Wehwalt (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quarter sovereign scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 20 February 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 20, 2024, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/February 2024. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work! Gog the Mild (talk) 21:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Quarter sovereign[edit]

Congratulations, Wehwalt! The article you nominated, Quarter sovereign, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, David Fuchs (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on History of the New York Jets[edit]

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Great article on Avery Brundage[edit]

Thank you for such an excellent article. It is a wonderful world (talk) 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. I enjoyed the research on that. Wehwalt (talk) 12:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 60[edit]

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Presidents opening line[edit]

Why are you so intent on doing something that is not the proper way of opening a biography? People are 99% of the time in biographies defined by nationality and occupation. Bill Clinton is an American politician. Why are you so obsessed with changing that for James K. Polk and Millard Fillmore among others? Makes no sense whatsoever. Plus, remember you don't own the articles (so you should stop reverting edits that you just "don't agree with"), and editing patterns for other US presidents do matter. I see you constantly reverting on all of those presidents articles. Please review WP:NOOWNERSHIP. Paul Vaurie (talk) 02:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should seek consensus rather than blind reverting. What policy mandates what you want?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will wait to hear from you on this rather than restoring. Please keep in mind that there are existing consensuses, and per WP:CONSENSUS it really is you who have the burden of building consensus.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How am I the one who is "blind reverting" when I made the change and you were the first to revert? There was nothing about my initial edit that was unconstructive. This is just how things are done. We define biographies by nationality and occupation. Also, most presidents of the United States are politicians, and the only thing notable about them isn't being president. Even if Millard Fillmore hadn't become president, he would probably have had a Wikipedia article today, which would have been defined as "an American politician who [...]". There is no reason the presidency should be the only way to define someone's entire biography. Writing an "American politician" and also incorporating that his most important post was president of the US is a way to show that yes, this was his most prominent role, but he was in a broader context a politican, and had a career. I don't understand the upside to just saying "the 13th president of the Unites States". I clearly explained why writing "politian" or "politician and lawyer" (whatever it maye be) may be more beneficial, but I don't see how omitting that helps anyone. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every president is a politician. Every POTUS is American. So why should we repeat ourselves? What policy says we have to begin with the formula you insist upon? Wehwalt (talk) 23:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I am assuming this is about the dispute in Richard Nixon. I have to notice there have been multiple reverts about the first sentence. I will take the liberty to point out a few relevant policies.
Per Achieving consensus through editing,

All edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries, or by discussion on the associated talk page. Substantive, informative explanations indicate what issues need to be addressed in subsequent efforts to reach consensus. Explanations are especially important when reverting another editor's good-faith work.

If your first edit is reverted, try to think of a compromise edit that addresses the other editor's concerns. If you can't, or if you do and your second edit is reverted, create a new section on the associated talk page to discuss the dispute.

Per Consensus can change,

Editors may propose a change to current consensus, especially to raise previously unconsidered arguments or circumstances... by discussion or editing. That said, in most cases, an editor who knows a proposed change will modify a matter resolved by past discussion should propose that change by discussion. Editors who revert a change proposed by an edit should generally avoid terse explanations (such as "against consensus") which provide little guidance to the proposing editor (or, if you do use such terse explanations, it is helpful to also include a link to the discussion where the consensus was formed).

Per WP:TALKDONTREVERT,

The quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view. The arguments "I just don't like it" and "I just like it" usually carry no weight whatsoever.

I think the discussion about the modification of the first sentence should be in the article's talk page. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 01:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thinker78: Thank you. Wehwalt— I suggest we move this discussion to the talk page of either Richard Nixon or Millard Fillmore. I'll leave to you the honors of doing so. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that since you are arguing that yours is the only "proper way" to begin such a biographical article, that you must begin a discussion at the appropriate MOS talk page. Anything else allows WP:LOCALCON local consensuses at variance with the MOS to form, for example that in existence at Richard Nixon. Wehwalt (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One option could be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography (most relevant section of the guideline may be Lead section), provided it covers presidents in general probably. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't particularly love pushing their main claim to notability to the end of the first sentence, but that's what MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE advises. The conversation ought to be on that page. (Edit: just realized that's the same link Thinker just shared.) Ed [talk] [OMT] 20:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024[edit]



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Brooklyn Dodgers 1, Boston Braves 1 (26 innings), about "the longest MLB baseball game in terms of innings ever, and probably with rule changes the longest there will ever be"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

Thank you for improving articles in January! I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and have - believe it or not - two musical DYK. Shalom chaverim. On vacation, with something for your sweet tooth --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today: the performance of Anna Nekhames --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on FA nomination of Knowledge[edit]

Hello Wehwalt, I wanted to let you know that I nominated the article Knowledge for featured article status, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Knowledge/archive1. There has been little response so far and I was wondering whether you might be interested in taking a look. If you have the time, I would appreciate your comments. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{hatnote group}}[edit]

Hi,

I've been de-cluttering "other uses"-type hatnotes lately, and just now came across this wrapper template for the first time ever. Which brought back memories of you complaining about "wasting prime real estate" at the top of articles in a couple of threads a couple of years ago. So I thought I'd pass on the link, on the off-chance that you weren't already aware of it either. :)

- 2A02:560:5821:6C00:D584:82D:3700:9815 (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024 GAN backlog drive[edit]

Good article nominations | March 2024 Backlog Drive
March 2024 Backlog Drive:
  • On 1 March, a one-month backlog drive for good article nominations will begin.
  • Barnstars will be awarded.
  • Interested in taking part? You can sign up here or ask questions here.
You're receiving this message because you have reviewed or nominated a good article in the last year.

(t · c) buidhe 02:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Morgan Bulkeley[edit]

Congratulations, Wehwalt! The article you nominated, Morgan Bulkeley, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) via FACBot (talk) 12:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places

Congratulations! And thank you for scheduling March! - Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm very sorry for his passing. Wehwalt (talk) 23:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Improving that article was tough - too much emotion. Missing Vami IV is tougher. - Thank you today for Quarter sovereign, about "the smallest coin in the sovereign range. It doesn't have as long a history as the others, but there's still something to be said about its history, both in the 19th century and more recently." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was very sorry to hear about Vami. Wehwalt (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - More music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or, to Gilbert & Sullivan fans, it is Frederic's 42nd birthday. Wehwalt (talk) 16:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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