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February 2011

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Bentworth

Perhaps if you could find verifiable (i.e. not verbal) references for your points, and then discuss them on the talk page it might help. If there is a reference for the other view and none for yours, you don't stand a chance. Watch out for the 3RR rule too - you must not revert something more than three times in 24 hours or you will get blocked. Peridon (talk) 22:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

You keep asking how this can be corrected. I'm telling you, but you are ignoring me. You may well have excellent local knowledge - you also MUST have references to back you up. Your word for it DOESN'T COUNT. Sorry, that's the rule. See WP:V about verifiability, and WP:RS for what are reliable sources. If you go on ignoring advice and the rules, you will get blocked from editing. And then your knowledge will not get used. Up to you. Peridon (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Reliable sources

Hi Ukiws, it's obvious you know a great deal about Hampshire and Bentworth in particular, but it would help enormously if you added supporting references. We can't use other Wikipedia articles as references (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources) but if you can find something to support what you know (as I know myself from my own area of expertise in geology this can be difficult) it reduces the likelihood of reversions and excessive discussions. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 23:08, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Bentworth and Bentworth Hall

Hi Ukiws,

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I have been trying very hard to look at Bentworth Hall for a year now but the closest I can get to seeing it was by standing on the edge of Tinker's Lane.

IWS (Ian William Strachan): Just email [email protected] or ring 01 420 564 195 and come round. I have a lot of historical material both on paper and as JPEGs and Word Documents. We have just hosted a Canadian Professor from McGill who is writing a book about George Cecil Ives (see the Wiki entry) and Victorian sexuality. He lived with his mother Emma Ives at the present Bentworth Hall which was built about 1832 when the owner apparently did not like the original Bentworth Hall on the main village road to Medstead and built a new "mansion" with walls of mortar and squared flints.

IWS: There are therefore two places in the village that have been called Bentworth Hall. The original is just S of the Star pub and is now called Hall Place (at one time, Hall Farm), goes back to the 1200s and has mediaeval wall paintings (I have colour photos that the present occupants, Antonia and Charles Peal, let me take). After 1832 the name "Bentworth Hall" refers to the present "mansion" that is off the main road and marked on the OS 1:50,000 map as Be tworth Hall.

If you are the owner of Bentworth Hall

IWS: We have been in the West Wing since 1983. After Major Berens died in 1982 the accommodation an Bentworth Hall was split into five, the main house into three and the stable block into two. That is the arrangement today.

14 December 2011 (20:40 UTC)

That's a nice picture of Bentworth Hall. Last year I found a real one dating from the 1910s but I was told that this should not be put into the Bentworth article because for some reasons a picture of a picture cannot be allowed on Wikipedia articles. I must thank you for expanding the article Bentworth on my start I made in 2008 and then returned to in 2010. I'm afraid that for my own good I can't use Wikipedia anymore (or as much as I used to) so I won't be expanding Bentworth anymore. I mainly did it off research. Thank you very much for expanding the article. By the way, should the Bentworth Royal Wedding celebration image be in the 'prehistory' section? (I moved it into the 'recent history' section). Regards Jaguar (talk) 22:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

From UKIWS (Ian Strachan). Thanks for the above. I have just taken a photo of the "Sun" pub and also have pictures of the annual Bentworth village fete, both worthy of inclusion.

I have a request.

Please restore the "edit" facility to the first section of the Bentworth entry. I would like to propose some changes but at the moment cannot do so. For instance, there should be a cross-reference to the Bentworth Parish Council web site http://bentworth.org.uk

BTW, I hope that you like the additions about the village pubs, the information mainly from Georgia Smith's book on the village (I knew her, she lived in Holt End at a house called "Jockeys" and died abut 15 years ago).

With your permission, I will continue tidying up the Bentworth web site.

Thanks for your work on the article. The "edit" tags are all still there - the first section in the History section might have moved to the right slightly due to the picture being moved but all the edit buttons are still there. As for the Bentworth Parish website, http://www.bentworth.info/home/home.html is in the infobox of the article and if you would like to replace that with the http://bentworth.org.uk link, then you can do so in the infobox or alternately the link can be placed in the 'External links' section. I could do that if you like!

The information on the village pubs are amazing! When I was in the Star last year I found a booklet detailing on Bentworth's history and it was by Georgia Smith. Also if you are looking for any other free images of Bentworth that may be used in the article they can be found here on Wikipedia Commons including a few pictures of Bentworth I took last year. Thanks for tidying the article. Regards, Jaguar (talk) 12:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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In your changes to Bentworth, you seem to be making a habit of including inline external links. If you read WP:ELNO you will see that inline external links should not be used; you may well want to change them to references. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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From UKIWS. The colour picture is mine and the other is over 100 years old and therefore out of copyright.6 Feb 2012 22:30 UTC

Bentworth for GA?

Are you trying to nominate Bentworth for a Good Article like I did back in 2010? I got to warn you, if my revision did not pass, then this current revision of the Bentworth article won't pass. If you're interested in bringing it up to GA, then you can ask me as I've reviewed some Good Articles in the past and also you can familiarise yourself with guide for nominating good articles. If you want, I can copy edit Bentworth again so it would have a better chance of passing. Please respond if you want to know more! Jaguar (talk) 18:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

From Ukiws: Dear Jaguar, I note your comments but there have been major changes in layout, text and photos since 2010, from which I noted the adverse comments in the 2010 GA assessment and have tried to satisfy them. Let's see what others think. Ukiws (talk) 09:30 UTC, 17 February 2012

I've made major improvements, its currently under review. I need you though to tell me your sources for historic parish size and villages in the administration section, can't find a thing on it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

From Ukiws: Dear Dr B, your comment noted. I'll see if more references can be added from my file on local history. BTW I assume that your wiki name is a pseudonym, but I did know a Mike Blofield when I was in the UK Air Force, he was a fellow pilot and an Air-to-Air refuelling instructor at RAF Marham in the 1960s. Ukiws (talk) 09:15 UTC, 17 February 2012

Hi Ukiws. My wiki name is based on Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the villain from the James Bond films. You may be pleased to know Bentworth passed GA after the overhaul I gave it. Thankyou for improving it. The administration section does need more sources though. I would love for you to take some modern photographs of Bentworth Hall exterior and interior if possible as I plan on creating an article on it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Format for article lead page

Please stop. Your edits are completely against GA guidleines, you are well aware of this by now. I want to retain GA status. Clutter and pictures in the lead is not acceptable. If you want to improve content, leave the lead alone.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Please stop wasting your time and everybody elses. Unless you adhere to guidelines you will continue to be reverted. Why not put your energy into some military history articles or other villages in East Hampshire?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:41, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

From Ukiws: I have looked carefully at the Guidelines and MOS and see no reference to banning other pictures from a lead. They are present in other Wiki articles. I am trying to make the first page attractive to view so that readers may wish to go further. However, to preserve peace I will pull out the second picture, but replace the boring one of the Church with the Village party near The Star. The church is well covered later. Ukiws (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Style

Hi Ukiws, you have a great deal of knowledge of Bentworth, and so do I, and Dr. Blofeld. I must tell you the reason why you are being reverted when you edit Bentworth is that your use of style of writing does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines. Putting pictures in the lead is not how Wikipedia works; there are no other articles like that. If you want, read WP:MOS (manual of style) for more information. The reason why we are all reverting your edits is because we want to keep Bentworth's Good Article status, but if there are pictures in the lead somebody is going to remove the Good Article status... if you have a good knowledge of the area, why don't you build up the Lasham article? Or Lasham Airfield? Shalden? Bentworth Hall? Kind regards, ☠ Jaguar ☠ 16:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

From Ukiws: I have looked carefully at the Guidelines and MOS and see no reference to banning other pictures from a lead. They are present in other Wiki articles. I am trying to make the first page attractive to view so that readers may wish to go further. However, to preserve peace I will pull out the second picture, but replace the boring one of the Church with the Village party near The Star. The church is well covered later. Ukiws (talk) 20:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

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Bentworth Stream

Hello Ukiws, thank you for your recent edits to Bentworth. Last year I read The Villager and I saw your entry on page 7 about Bentworth's former river. I became very interested in this and created an article about it (Bentworth Stream). Unfortunately other than a few sources I have little information about it, however I do know for a fact that it once existed! If you can help out here it would be very appreciated. Thank you! Regards ☠ Jaguar ☠ 20:43, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Ukiws, you must be careful of edit warring. There is a general rule on Wikipedia of the WP:3RR (three revert rule). I will restore all of your facts to the previous version of the lead. I will explain why me and Dr. Blofeld keep reverting you; the reason is because Bentworth is a Good Article and we have to keep it that way. Your revision of the lead is considered cluttered and will not meet the GA criteria which is very important! If you have any questions or suggestions please talk to me about it, I really don't want to take the risk of either one of us getting blocked due to edit warring. Regards ☠ Jaguar ☠ 20:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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It is becoming extremely annoying having you tamper with the lede and generally degrade the article everytime you edit it. The lede is perfectly well structured as it is. Please stop otherwise we'll have you topic banned from the article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:37, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Edits at List of birds of Florida

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• There is no shortage of space in Wikipedia, so there's seldom a need to abbreviate, so you can write "southeast" instead of "SE" or "Florida" instead of "FL" which will be unfamiliar to non Americans.
• In an article about birds of Florida, there's no need to say that each photo is taken in Florida.
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Just a few things that might help you. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike talk 23:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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Re Entry on Spanish Armada

English Armada

Why have you erased that the English Armada (1589) was also a failed expedition?

Are you a revisionist? Jacob34T (talk) 20:24, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

UKIWS reply: The full details on the English Counter Armada are in the article headed "English Armada", so there was no intention to hide its "failure". By all means put the extra words back, if you like Ukiws (talk) 12:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

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Laptop no longer allowing Wikipedia updates

A couple of days ago on one of my Laptops, on trying to edit the Wikipedia article on Southwick Park (Eisenhower's HQ on D-day in 1944), I had a screen which says:

" Editing from 89.238.128.0/18 has been blocked (disabled) by ‪GeneralizationsAreB " and then " The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be a web host provider."

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My other laptop and two desktops are working OK with Wikipedia, so I do not understand the above problem.

Maybe I used the affected laptop to edit a Wikipedia entry when I was away from home, perhaps the host site was dodgy?

In future perhaps I should carry out any Wikipedia editing from home where my internet connection will (hopefully) be OK.

Meanwhile, please be kind enough to un-block my affected laptop

Kind regards

Ian Strachan (Ukiws)

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Request reason:

Caught by a web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. My IP address is 89.238.128.0/18. Further information: A couple of days ago on one of my Laptops, on trying to edit the Wikipedia article on Southwick Park (Eisenhower's HQ on D-day in 1944) my laptop seems to have been blocked from further editing. My other laptop and two desktops are working OK with Wikipedia, so I do not understand the above problem. Maybe I used the affected laptop to edit a Wikipedia entry when I was away from home, perhaps the host site was dodgy? In future perhaps I should carry out any Wikipedia editing from home where my internet connection will (hopefully) be OK. Meanwhile, please be kind enough to un-block my affected laptop. Many thanks. Ukiws (talk) 14:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Please disable your proxy/vpn and try again in 24 hours. That should clear things up! Yamla (talk) 15:02, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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