User talk:Tewapack/Archive 2

J.B. Holmes undo

What are u doing with the J.B. y did u change that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.57.8 (talk) 05:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I echo the above question, although I hope to express it in somewhat more dignified fashion. Why did you revert closing up their initials? It is pretty standard practice in English to close up initials like that, and it's how both players' names are expressed at the PGA TOUR's website. J.B. Holmes' website even expresses it in that fashion (Trahan apparently doesn't have one). MrArticleOne (talk) 03:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Happy 2008 from Fgf2007 || About Accenture

Originally, I wasn't thinking about a separate records section on the Accenture Match Play page. Many thanks for correcting that particular oversight.

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank Fgf2007 (talk) 02:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Field Size in Golf Tournament Infobox?

I have a friend who just got reshuffled on the Nationwide Tour/Q-School list where he'll most likely only have a chance to get into 156 player fields. I wanted to see the field sizes for the remaining events this year, but am having a very hard time finding this information. Even the tournament home pages seem to lack this. The only place to date I've found this info is on USA Today's fantasy golf tournament articles they publish for each event, such as this one about the Buick:

http://fantasygolf.usatoday.com/content/column.asp?sport=GOL&column=195&articleid=29858

Can we add this field to the Golf Tournament Infobox? I think their location is nice, below the purse.

P.S. I was referred to you for this question, I assume you have domain over this infobox. I'd be happy to help and populate this field in each tournament page (I believe there are 48 tournaments on the PGA Tour in 2008). Since I'm having a hard time finding this info, I may just do this one tournament at a time when the fantasy golf article is published for each event. Then, by the end of 2008 all tournaments will have this information.

--Kentino (talk) 20:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Quail Hollow Club

How did you do that? Where can find more options like that for references? IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!! (talk) 02:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

T for ties in majors for golf

I was thinking it looked better not to put the T's in the round updates for the 2004 PGA Championship because all the other majors on Wikipedia don't have them. Also when you look at most leaderboards in golf it doesn't put the T's on them. I wanted to ask you before changing it back. Thanks

--hietanbs (talk)

Frank Thomas

First, I don't think there is a need for all-time rosters. The categories have all the players in them. If the only difference is that the all-time rosters have managers in them, then I think that the all-time rosters should be deleted and managers added to the team categories.

Second, I think all living people not just baseball players should have the place of birth in the parenthesis. Once a person dies then I can understand incorporating the place of birth and place of death into the article and the deletion of them in the parenthesis. Also, I would rather the baseball player articles be consistent over adhering to some stupid wikipedia policy. There is no way that the thousands and thousands of baseball player articles will all be changed removing the place of birth and adding it into the article; that will take more time than any person or group is willing to commit to it. Jackal4 (talk) 22:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization et al.

The Manual of Style is about Wikipedia style, and I do not dispute that in the article's textual discussion of something (e.g., The Tour Championship), it ought to be rendered in normal capitalization. It is very ambiguous whether the Manual of Style entry you mention applies to our table here per se. Even a casual inspection of the Manual of Style entry makes it plain that it was written with the textual discussions of topics in the encyclopedia in mind; its emphasis is on not unduly calling attention to any one thing (but in the context of a table that's a list of tournament names, some of which are even bolded to emphasize their particular importance, this is not an issue) and avoiding ambiguity in sentence design/construction (which, again, isn't the issue here because of the presentation of the information). I am not content to accept a reference to the MOS in this context as such; it ought to be specifically discussed and addressed in this particular context. MrArticleOne (talk) 05:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

2008 US Open Purse

Do we have a source that the purse is 7,500,000 and the winning share is 1,350,000? Thanks. Supertigerman (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Why no flag?

Golf is about competitors from all different countries. All we heard about at the Masters this year was the South African connection between Immelman and Gary Player. --BurpTheBaby (Talk) 21:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha, doesn't make sense to me, but consensus rules. Thanks for the info. --BurpTheBaby (Talk) 22:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Thanks for you help on the 2004 Masters Tournament page. Always good to have a copy-editor! Even though I'm a Tiger fan, the 2004 Masters was one of my favorites. So much fun it was. Also, can you let me know if there are any projects or what not that I can help out with. Or anything else. Thanks again! --FourteenClowns (talk) 21:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Flags

Doesn't make sense to have golfers play under flags that were not in existence during their playing days. Why would you have golfers who solely played under the Union of South Africa Flags playing under the new south african flag? Makes no sense to me. The question has obviously come up before, so perhaps you can refer me to the consensus ruling. Benkenobi18 (talk) 23:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. :D Benkenobi18 (talk) 06:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Mark Nichols

Thank you for cleaning up the article i made on my dad, and putting another link in it. It really makes it look more professional. I can now make it much bigger and detailed about his career and life. Thank you! Jack667788 (talk)

Golfer Infobox

Hey Tewapack, using Tiger Woods's as an example here, i'm thinking of changing the professional wins section (and the gridlines had been removed by another editor, which i like).
Here are a couple thoughts I have:
Infobox 1

Tiger Woods
Personal Information
Birth	(1975-12-30) December 30, 1975 Cypress, California
Height	6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)
Weight	185 pounds (84 kg; 13.2 st)
Nationality	United States
Wife	Elin Nordegren (2004-Present)
Children	Sam Alexis (age - 16 years)
Residence	Windermere, Florida
College	Stanford University (two years)
Career
Turned Pro	1996
Current tour	PGA Tour (joined 1996)
Professional wins (89)
PGA Tour	65
Other individual	22
2-man team	2
Major Championship Wins (14)
Masters	(4) 1997, 2001, 2002, 2005
U.S. Open	(3) 2000, 2002, 2008
The Open	(3) 2000, 2005, 2006
PGA	(4) 1999, 2000, 2006, 2007
Awards listed here

Pros: For the sake of uniformity, it has 2 columns in the pro wins section.
Cons: The right side looks too plain.

Infobox 2
I like this one better:

Tiger Woods
Personal Information
Birth	(1975-12-30) December 30, 1975 Cypress, California
Height	6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)
Weight	185 pounds (84 kg; 13.2 st)
Nationality	United States
Wife	Elin Nordegren (2004-Present)
Children	Sam Alexis (age - 16 years)
Residence	Windermere, Florida
College	Stanford University (two years)
Career
Turned Pro	1996
Current tour	PGA Tour (joined 1996)
Professional wins (89)
PGA Tour: 65 Other individual: 22 2-man team: 2
Major Championship Wins (14)
The Masters	(4) 1997, 2001, 2002, 2005
U.S. Open	(3) 2000, 2002, 2008
The Open	(3) 2000, 2005, 2006
PGA	(4) 1999, 2000, 2006, 2007
Awards listed here

Pros: The wins are centered in their layout.
Cons: The lack of uniformity.
Overall:
Pros: Professional wins deserves larger recognition, and wins should not be in parentheses as they are now.
Cons: The career section is short, and perhaps the majors on the left column below should be in bold in order to synchronize the look.
When we implement a new infobox, I would wikilink the number of wins to the wins section of the page. For example, Tiger's 65 would link directly to List of career achievements by Tiger Woods#PGA Tour wins (65).
I will also post this on Michfan2123's page, so we can get his input too.
Thanks. Supertigerman (talk) 21:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Need your help

I uploaded several US Open and PGA Championship logos for pages that User:FourteenClowns created. I noticed the newest pages like the 2008 US Open for example have logos and those aren't being challenged. User:Stepshep is going to recommend these for deletion if I don't construct fair rationale charts or whatever they are. They obviously should exist as others do. If you can help me out with a few, I'll be able to go from there. Thanks! --BurpTheBaby (Talk) 05:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I wish you could have helped me with what to do here. The images have been deleted. --BurpTheBaby (Talk) 19:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lake Macquarie Amateur

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Craig Wood (golfer)

Just to explain why I changed the table in this article; contrary to your edit comment, there was a reason. The tables are nicely organized so that each year in the decade is immediately above/below each other, except for the first decade. Changing the first decade to show the same alignment improves the readability of the data and makes it easier for readers to understand it. If I could have found a way to put blanks in the first decade for years 1920-1924, I would have done that. That is the way it would most likely appear in a print-only encyclopedia. It appears that wikitable doesn't allow for that, at least not easily. Cheers. Truthanado (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Mark Nichols (golfer)

Please see WP:CONTEXT#What generally should not be linked and WP:CONTEXT#Dates.

“ The names of geographical locations that are likely to be well-known to English-speakers should generally not be linked where, in the context, they are unlikely to be confused with other locations of the same name, and the linked article would not specifically add to readers' understanding of the topic at hand. ”

I'd say this would include England.

“ Dates that contain day, month and year or day and month may be linked using MediaWiki's date autoformatting mechanism. Careful consideration of the disadvantages and advantages of the autoformatting mechanism should be made before applying it: the mechanism does not work for the vast majority of readers, such as unregistered users and registered users who have not made a setting, and can affect readability and appearance if there are already numerous high-value links in the text. ”

Wikilinking dates provides a small benefit to a small proportion of readers but is at best useless and at worst a distraction for the vast majority. Colonies Chris (talk) 23:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

August 2008

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Fed Ex Cup Points

Greetings Tewapack ....

We are both frustrated, as are many others - we all want to know the points for all 30 places at the Tour Championship, but the folks running PGATOUR.com are going to keep us guessing right up to tournament week.

BTW - If I may ask, what was your source for the complete points breakdown used in the first three playoff events?

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank Fgf2007 (talk) 02:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sergio :: Tour Championship Points

Greetings Tewapack ...

Sergio Garcia

First, thank you for correcting me on Sergio Garcia still being in the Fed Ex Cup Race. That one just sort of slipped by me.

Tour Championship Points: 110,000 --- UPDATED 9/26/2008 at 8:50 PM EDT

Source of Points Information - Watch the figures as Tour Championship scores change. Then do simple deductive reasoning along with the appropriate math.

  1st - 12,500       11th - 3,600       21st - 2,600
  2nd -  8,500       12th - 3,500       22nd - 2,500
  3rd -  6,000       13th - 3,400       23rd - 2,400
  4th -  5,000       14th - 3,300       24th - 2,300
  5th -  4,500       15th - 3,200       25th - 2,225
  6th -  4,200       16th - 3,100       26th - 2,150
  7th -  4,050       17th - 3,000       27th - 2,100
  8th -  3,900       18th - 2,900       28th - 2,050
  9th -  3,800       19th - 2,800       29th - 2,025
 10th -  3,700       20th - 2,700       30th - 2,000

And FYOI (For Your Own Info), feel free to read my Actual and Alternative 2008 Fed Ex Cup Scenarios

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank Fgf2007 (talk) 16:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Ignacio Garrido

1997 ryder cup not 1979. don't change again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.252.120 (talk) 07:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Exact Tour Championship Points Determined

Greetings Tewapack --

Check under Sergio::Tour Championship Points, a couple of posts above this one.

Thanx-A-Lot, Frank Fgf2007 (talk) 00:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

table centring

Hi, sorry yes the tables do look similar, but for some reason on the main article the digitd were aligned to the left, but I agree this is more practical nice work. Oh and you don't need the USA bit before the flag|USA, as it sorts itself anyway NapHit (talk) 03:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC) NapHit (talk) 03:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Years in golf

Hi Tewapack, I noticed you added 2009 to Template:Years in golf. Thanks for doing this. Question: it's showing up on 2009 in golf but it's not showing up on any of the previous year pages (2008 in golf, 2007 in golf, etc.) even though it's in the template. I'm guessing it has something to do with the coding of the template that I don't understand. Can you explain this to me? thanks again. --Crunch (talk) 23:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)