User talk:Terlines
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International relations[edit]
In light of your recent edits, it has come to my attention that you are interested in the topic of international relations. Vis-à-vis government statements about state of relations, perhaps an attempt to self-contain and filter the information available in online press is timely. Most relevant content concerning (the stregthening or continuation) of the state of bilateral cooperation is dealt with in bilateral meetings, in which MoUs, joint declarations (even treaties) et. al. on specific issues are issued. Contrastingly, the weakening of bilateral cooperation is usually unilateral. Beyond the former frame, declarations of leaders are often routine, and I advise caution to include them, moreover if we are dealing with platitudes such as X leader state things as usual are going to remain things as usual. Writing in terms in what is has happened (even if it concerns the future) instead of in terms of declarations about what is planned to happen in the future is also advisable. In addition, I think that there is a need for adapting better to what the source says to stay accurate and avoid bad original research. Asqueladd (talk) 13:09, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
What's wrong with this? Well, to begin with, why don't you introduce content about a bilateral summit when it actually happens instead of leaving irrelevant content hanging in a state of perpetual need for updating? Pending removal or update, that bit of information is, as now, clunky at best. You add Both countries planned to hold a bilateral summit in the same year
. Well, has it already been held?
- If so, wouldn't it be better to write about the summit?
- If not, do we have a true secondary source pondering on whether the fact that is has not been held / the change of plans be notable?
- If not, the mention to those speculated plans are to be removed for incomplete non-enciclopedic fringe information.
- If not, do we have a true secondary source pondering on whether the fact that is has not been held / the change of plans be notable?
I suggest to imbue your edits of the spirit of WP:BALASP and WP:CRYSTALBALL (before publishing them, that is). The inclusion of such kind of low-notability speculations and declarations about the future is bad writing and only makes maintenance harder.--Asqueladd (talk) 13:48, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I am also checking how upon supposedly reading this source (do you actually read the sources you cite?) which by the way it is not a good source other than for confirming where and when some member of the Royal Household met with someone, you managed to deliver this bit
"In November 2021, the Italian President, Sergio Mattarella, and his wife, Laura Mattarella, made a state visit to Spain, where they were received by the Spanish King and Queen, Felipe VI and Letizia Ortiz, together with the Portuguese President, Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, in the Royal Palace of Madrid.Both countries established messages of unity and cooperation for the refoundation of the EU."
As you may see, about 50% of the contribution is either inaccurate (see underline text) and/or original research/irrelevant to the article (see text in bold). In light of this and similar edits in the past, I am becoming worried about potential competence issues. The content of your edits often (if not generally) have a "struggling" relationship with the content featured the sources you cite, among other issues.--Asqueladd (talk) 17:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- I am also checking how upon supposedly reading this source (do you actually read the sources you cite?) which by the way it is not a good source other than for confirming where and when some member of the Royal Household met with someone, you managed to deliver this bit
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