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Suffragist Artist

I saw your comment on voting on Rosie's page and I thought I'd take a look for some suffragist artists and found Ida Proper Sedgwick (1873-1957), [1]. However, I can't find too much other information about her yet. >.< Btw, I too, think it's super important to vote. I talk to my kids about it and it felt really good to vote in this primary. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl We actually flew back to the US for the first time in 5 years last year to change our residence so we could vote. I may not live in the US, but the policies the country uses effect me as a citizen and impact my livelihood, my retirement, my access to funds in US banks, etc. We had crazy difficulties voting from our previous state...they mailed our absentee ballots to our address in that state rather than our new addresses in either Belize or Mexico; they required that we mail ballots back in a specific sized envelope which were unattainable here in a country which measures in metric scale; they mailed our ballots 2 weeks before an election, though we told them the delivery time was 30 days, etc. etc. etc. The US embassy had to facilitate all of our attempts at voting because the state was totally uncooperative. Our new state (actually where we were married) allows us to vote via e-mail or fax and e-mails our ballots. Much simpler and doesn't feel so much as if they are specifically trying to thwart our participation. I'll look at Sedgwick. I'm almost finished with my Romanian suffragette. :) SusunW (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
That's terrible! :( The only time I had to vote absentee was when I was in the military overseas. I was in Germany and didn't have any trouble, but on the other hand, technically on a US base, I'm still "in the US." I found this and this and she was part of this group, which has a ton of redlinks: Heterodoxy (group). I'm happy to collaborate. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:56, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Would love to Megalibrarygirl do you want to start it or do you want me to? Also curious if you have a Muse subscription. Found a great book on Eastern European Feminists. SusunW (talk) 19:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I totally have a Muse subscription. What's the title? I'll start Sedgwick: Here's the draft: User:Megalibrarygirl/Ida Proper Sedgwick Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Biographical Dictionary of Women’s Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries SusunW (talk) 19:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Oops, I forgot to Megalibrarygirl ping you. *sigh* SusunW (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
No worries. I finally found it. Btw, isn't it nuts that Ida Proper is so lost in history? She seems really significant at the time. I think Wyeth painted a portrait of her. I wonder if we could use that for the article? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl I am finding more and more that newspapers are the way to go. Traditional publishers ignored women's accomplishments, but newspapers talked about them. Yes, we end up with a slew of sources, but, significant gems. I have no idea about the PD of artworks. Maybe my friend We hope knows? I'd love to see if that painting she had in the Salon in 1910 could be used too. What I can make out from the newspaper article of it, it was lovely. SusunW (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
You are so right. :) I want to see her work, too. I'm having a hard time finding examples, though. She has totally slipped through the cracks which is awful. The Wyeth picture was a red herring. The title is Ida Proper, but the painting is of a house (maybe her house?). Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl look at the 1910 article from "the Sun" SusunW (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I wish I could find that in color. The photo you found of her is awesome! Orange knickers! How cool! But the lack of examples of her work is terrible. Even the Smithsonian doesn't show her work. This is nuts. I'm actually super angry that she became forgotten. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Think we should move it to article space? I am mostly tapped out on sources. I can't even figure out if the Wyeth painting is her house, like you suggested. However, I do have a friend who works at the El Paso Art Museum, and maybe she'll have an idea where to find out about her works and such. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl yes, I think we can take it to mainspace. We've covered her fairly well from what we can find. this is interesting. Seems to indicate she married and had children. Wonder if that is why it goes silent? SusunW (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I wondered that too, since the family seems large and genealogy has been done, along with gravestone pictures, on some sites. I'll move it. I just wish I could find more. She got into my head. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
The few times I've dealt with artwork, it's been with paintings which are easily in the PD. no matter what country. (Paintings from Althorp and the like.) It would seem that for the US, having something before 1923 would be PD, no question. But there are other rules in place in other countries which are based on the death year of the artist and X number of years after the artist's death. Would suggest running this by Crisco 1492 since he's very active in this area.

Chronicling America at Library of Congress has a good collection of pre-1923 newspapers from across the US. This may be a clearer copy of The Sun page. You're able to download a PDF or JPG copy of the page (see upper right of the LOC viewer). There were also more women who were involved in art for the cause; here's the page I found at Chronicling America:

Other voting rights pages at LOC:

Some of this might be of use. ;) We hope (talk) 16:25, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you We hope Great quote from Ida, "If politics are dirty, send for the cleaning woman" Evening Post 1915. Why do I think she had a great tongue-in-cheek sense of humor. Orange knickers indeed Megalibrarygirl! SusunW (talk) 16:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Awesome sources, We hope. :) Thank you. I also like that quote and that picture of her with the jaunty smile is too cool. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:04, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl, I'm working on a Liechtenstein lady right now, so it will be much later today before I can look at Proper. If you want to incorporate these, that'd be lovely. No clue what your agenda is today. I'd also like to get her nominated for DYK. Certainly deserving of more recognition. Do you want to nominate her or do you want me to? SusunW (talk) 17:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
I'll do it. I'm chasing down some of the redlinks I found with Proper anyway. There are local New York suffrage groups/publications not covered yet that Proper was involved in. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl Yay! cool. I'll be here if you need me immersed in Liechtenstein, last European country to grant women suffrage. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marquesa del Ter

—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 00:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC) 12:01, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Reminder

Hi SusunW, after updating your DYK page, remember to update your total at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. You may also want to add a DYK counter to your user page (see top right on my user page). Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Yoninah I figure if I do it by the week, it is easier to remember :) didn't know I needed to update that page, so I will add it to my "to do" list. SusunW (talk) 18:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
I do it right away, with the article linked in the edit summary, so that I know how far I got ;) - I remember waiting for my name to come up there when I achieved #25, - but - as almost everything here - you have to do it yourself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Thankfully for me, I have you and Yoninah looking out for me. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Had Yoninah not created it for me and told me I was over 100, I honestly would never have known :) SusunW (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Ida Sedgwick Proper has been nominated for Did You Know

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DYK nomination of Melitta Marxer

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FYI

Hi, I just came across your article on Shimizu Shikin while building prep sets, and notice that you were citing the editors of a book rather than the writer of the chapter. I reformatted the ref as a chapter ref rather than a book ref. You can find this template at WP:Citation templates; it's a little tricky to get used to, but when it works, it works! Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! As always, appreciate the help! SusunW (talk) 13:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
About the {{cite news}} template you are using for your Newspapers.com refs (as in Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger): the newspaper should be listed under {{|newspaper= }}, not under {{|publisher= }} and not with italics added around the newspaper name. The only time names of newspapers are italicized by the template is when you use {{cite web |work= }}. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Yoninah I use the drop-down box "templates" for citations. I don't really have time to manually look up each and every template when trying not to lose a train of thought writing an article. I would love it if some of those who are so heavily involved in MOS actually made the technology standardized and if they would add harv referencing to the drop down. I used to never italicize them, figuring if the MOS gurus wanted them italicized they would program the templates that way, but was nailed on the issue in a GA. SusunW (talk) 21:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Really? Interesting. Yoninah (talk) 21:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Yoninah Yep. When you go to edit any document and hit the "Cite" in the edit window, pull the newspapers drop down up and you'll see, the options are agency, i.e. AP, UPI, etc. or publisher. There is absolutely no reference to harv style whatsoever. SusunW (talk) 21:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I lost you. Where does it say "cite" in the edit window? Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Yoninah when I hit edit, at the top of my window is a string of symbols B, I, signature, link, embed file, advanced, Special characters, Help, Cite. If you press Cite, a drop down appears to another level which says Templates (also with another set of dropdowns) Named references and error check. SusunW (talk) 21:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Oh, neat! Can you believe I've been editing for more than 10 years and never noticed that string of symbols? Thanks – I'll try it out! Yoninah (talk) 21:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Yoninah I am amazed I knew something you didn't. Next question. Any idea why if I bracket child marriage it doesn't link to the file in Beatrice Greig's article? I've erased it and retyped it 3 times. SusunW (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for working on Ida Proper with me. :) I always enjoy collaborating with you and find I learn something new about research and citing every time. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I too totally enjoy collaborating with you. It is interesting how different the sources are which we each find and how well we can incorporate them into telling the life story of some amazing women. Proper clearly deserved to be rescued. :) SusunW (talk) 17:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I looked for a thread to place one link for fun, and this may be it ;) - I added Caroline Trevor to my red links (on BWV 4) and found this ;) - there may be DYK after all, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt Fabulous! One baby step at a time. May it become a full-time position if that is what she desires :) SusunW (talk) 15:50, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia library Newspapers.com renewal

Hi SusunW, Your free one-year account with Newspapers.com will end on April 13 2016. Newspapers.com has offered to extend existing accounts by another year. If you wish to keep your account until April 13 2017, please add your name to the Account Renewal list here. I'll let Newspapers.com customer support know, and they will extend your subscription. If you don't want to keep your account for another year, you don't have to do anything. Your account will expire unless I hear from you that you want to keep it. HazelAB (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you HazelAB for the reminder. This is an invaluable resource for me. Definitely need it renewed. SusunW (talk) 17:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Olga Rapay-Markish

Great job! Do you know Russian as well as you know Spanish? Yes, the lives of Jews in Russia, especially during the Stalin era, were horrible. Stalin killed more people than Hitler. I added her Hebrew name and also did a little copyediting. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Your help is always appreciated. Yes about the same...not at all. I live in Mexico, I can read Spanish because of its Latin roots, but I speak very little and understand very little when someone speaks to me. I have a fairly good eye for reading Romanian as well, but cannot speak it at all. French is impossible, I cannot read it nor speak it. I don't speak Russian or read it at all. Usually I put it through Google translate and then back through Bing translate and get the basic gist. I unfortunately have little skill with languages. *sigh* But have adapted translations using multiple programs to make fairly sure I have legitimate translations. Then I ask someone who really knows to make sure it is okay. SusunW (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Eugenia de Reuss Ianculescu

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DYK for Julia Solly

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DYK for Suzette Holten

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DYK for Shimizu Shikin

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DYK for Amanda Sidwall

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DYK for Concepción Felix

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DYK for Doris Stevens

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DYK for Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger

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DYK for Františka Plamínková

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DYK for Olga Rapay-Markish

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DYK for Elida Campodónico

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Mary Davies (poet)

Hi, can you find anything more on her?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:54, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I wish. Have searched all the usual sources, and find nothing other than the one you have. SusunW (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for looking anyway! Yes, sadly doesn't seem to be much on her available.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:50, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marta Vergara

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Invitation to our April event

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DYK for Elina González Acha de Correa Morales

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Impact

Impact
Thank you for your impact
in being the driving force
behind coverage (DYK?) of
the fight for women's rights,
especially the right to vote!

I don't know how many DYK credits you received exactly this month, six one day, one right now on the Main page, - every life and achievement of a woman covered with diligence and love for the topic, - admirable! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

A thank you from me, too. I appreciate what you do. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you both @Rosiestep and Gerda Arendt:! It has been an exhausting month. 31 articles written, 1 GA, 26 DYK articles nominated, 29 DYK articles reviewed. I have one more suffragist to write and then, I am slowing down. Too much like work and not enough like relaxation. Thank you Gerda for always being there to lift others up when they are struggling. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for saying that, - now take it easy, perhaps read, perhaps about the boy pictured on the Main page, - birthday is tomorrow but they didn't want him among the April fool hooks. I made a new table, how's that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Melitta Marxer

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April Fools? Nope! Welcome to the Women Scientists worldwide online edit-a-thon during Year of Science

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DYK for Avra Theodoropoulou

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Editor of the Week

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I nominate SusunW to be Editor of the Week for regularly writing and significantly expanding numerous articles on a regular basis [2][3][4] and for being a notable voice of reason in discussions with other editors. [5] SusunW actively and cheerfully performs the type of behind-the-scenes work that is not normally seen by the general Wikipedia community.[6] Her interest in Native American history, Women and Gender have led to her membership in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, Wikipedia:WikiProject Feminism and Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki. SusunW is not only a terrific editor but is a vital part of project discussions at Women in Red. This award was seconded by Dr. Blofeld 


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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 14:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Buster7 Thank you. What a lovely way to end women's month. @Rosiestep and Dr. Blofeld: have been constant mentors and guides. It would be impossible to have grown on WP and dealt with the atmosphere here without the support of them both and so many others. SusunW (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Nobody deserves it more than you!! Have a break for a bit, you deserve one more than anybody here!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:31, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Doc the admiration is mutual. Cenote bound. 41 yesterday and today looks to be the same. Too hot to think ;) SusunW (talk) 15:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Congrats, amiga. You deserve this award and its timing is lovely. Take a break and enjoy some peace and quiet now... BTW, that write-up is lovely but I think I was less eloquent, meaning someone else had a hand in improving it. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:29, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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