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Hey shep. Hope you're doing well. Just thought I'd drop in to let you know I can delivery any newsletters whilst you're away (so I guess this comment is also directed to anyone coming here to ask you to deliver something!). of course, you'll be taking up the torch again once you get back. so far I've been asked to deliver the Judaism letter which goes out on Aug 2. Of course, if you're back in action before then, have at it! best, –xeno (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:CHICAGO

Is WP:CHICAGO due for another bot run? What is the current schedule? Am I suppose to contact you every two weeks to remind you?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe he's still wikibreaking (see top of page) –xeno (talk) 13:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for doing a run. Best of luck in your continued recovery. I'll be watching my reports this week to see what kind of goodies the bot found for us.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Domitian (Toledo Museum of Art)

Some time ago I placed a request on the talkpage of Wikiproject Ohio for an image from the Toledo Museum of Art (a bust of emperor Domitian). Sadly, no-one ever responded, but you suggested to write to the museum personally for permission of images. Would you still be willing to do this? We need more than just "permission" to use images of course, but also "actual" images (such as this [1]). So any free pictures they're willing to "donate" to Wikipedia are fine by me. Otherwise I don't think they'll release copyright to any of their official museum photos (or stipulate non-commercial use only). Good luck with recovering from that surgery btw. Regards. --Steerpike (talk) 21:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back

Great to see you are back. How are you feeling? I've got a couple of little jobs if you like to take the bot out of the garage and give it a run around. Best. --Kleinzach 00:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!! Yay! Welcome back, buddy. Hope you're feeling much better. L'Aquatique[talk] 03:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hope you are well. Cheers, doncram (talk) 04:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Featured Topic Task Force proposal

Hey Stepshep, I've just set up a proposal for a new task force in the WikiProject Medicine called FTTF, or the Featured Topic Task Force. We aim to create a featured topic for medicine, most likely to do with an infectious disease of some form (the proposals so far include polio and bacterial infections in general) and become the first medical featured topic. The proposal can be found here and further discussion can be found at the bottom of the WikiProject Medicine talk page. I've very much appreciate your comments and possibly support of such a proposal, if you'd be willing to take part! —Cyclonenim^T@lk? 13:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Category based Bot Tagging

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Motto of the day

Hello, I notice you're using one of the {{motd}} templates, run by Wikipedia:Motto of the day. You may have noticed that some of the mottos recently have been followed by a date from 2006, or on occasion simply "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". The reason for this is that Motto of the day is in some very serious need of help. Participation in the project, which has never been especially high, has dropped considerably over this past summer, to the point we have had several days where no motto was scheduled to appear at all. Over the past several weeks, I've been the only editor scheduling mottos at all, but there aren't enough comments on some of these mottos to justify their use. If we do not get some help - and soon - your daily mottos will stop. In order for us to continue updating these templates for you, we need your help.

When you get a chance between your normal editing, could you stop by our nominations page and leave a few comments on some of the mottos there, especially those that do not have any comments yet? This works very simply; you read a motto, decide whether or not you like it, and post your opinion just below the motto. That's it - no experience required, just an idea of what you personally like and what you feel reflects Wikipedia and its community. If you do have past experience with the project, then please close some of the older nominations once they've got a decent consensus going. There are directions on the nominations page on how to do this.

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Bot

Hey. I hope recovery is coming along. I should now mention that the frequency of your bot runs is important. We are testing an alert bot at WP:CHIAA. When it becomes a daily feature, frequent talk page tagging will be useful. Often WP:AFDs occur when an article is new or malformed. People may not have properly created talk pages for such articles. Your tagging may help us save articles.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. Since I can't run the bot daily you might be interested in setting up a feed with this bot. While you do get a few strays every now and then you can see articles as they come out daily and fixup any ones which need help sometimes before a deletionist or NPP even comes by. I've been doing most of my work (for school and here) on a computer that didn't have AWB on it until a few hours ago so I'll be sure to do more frequent runs for you as well. Hope this all helps! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Announcement of selections for Version 0.7

Hi Stepshep, I hope you're doing well. We are looking for an "announcement bot" to help announce our Version 0.7 article selections for each WikiProject. Would Shepbot be able to help? It would involve the following:

1. Read a list of selected articles from an updated version of this list, for example this selection of Sports articles.
2. Post a boilerplate announcement on the talk page of the relevant WikiProject, along with the list of the selected articles. If that talk page is non-existent, don't post, instead record the problem in a log.
3. Rinse and repeat until all projects have been contacted.

The "missing" WikiProjects may be new, or have incorrect links, and we can hopefully contact them by hand. Can you do this? Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 14:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

The data is available in a machine-readable format, as well; you wouldn't need to parse HTML pages. — Carl (CBM · talk) 15:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm approved to run AWB, so I'm trying to figure out exactly how to work this. When does this need to be run by? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

We have to wait till User:CBM (see comment above) runs the selection bot. I thought it would run today, but I think he's been doing documentation etc to prepare for the deluge of questions once it's announced. Once the selection has been done (tomorrow?), we will want to get the word out ASAP so as to give WikiProjects as long as possible to do cleanup and to select suitable article versions. So - probably this weekend. Is that possible? Can AWB deliver a customized message to each project? Meanwhile, I'll write the boilerplate portion of the announcement. Thanks a lot! Walkerma (talk) 08:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh okay, I thought that was V .7; i miss read something. Here's a couple questions I have.

Would it be okay to include a link to the selected articles instead of listing them all? Some projects might not enjoy being flooded with article names. If you want the names I'm sorry but I can't find a way to do that. If they are needed the following questions can be nulled.

I'm not sure how much this would effect the coding of the bot that publishes the information but in the URL would it be possible to have it contain the word wikiproject; ie http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2009-9-14/HTML/WikiProject Sports.s0.html

If by some miracle that is possible does anyone know why a link with a space in it breaks? ie http://www.website.com/WikiProject Sports/ ?

I'm really sorry about all the questions but I'm slightly limited over here. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

The ideal would be for you to post a link for all projects, but also to post a list on the page itself if it's (say) less than 40 articles - there are hundreds of small projects where this would be very convenient. But if that's too difficult in the short amount of time, I understand. I've asked CBM to respond further to your questions. He plans to do the final selection run tonight. Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 01:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

The problem with adding 'Wikiproject' to the link is some projects already include the word, and 'Wikiproject Wikiproject Foo' won't work. To put a space into a link you have to replace it with %20, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%20talk:CBM. I'll let you know as soon as the final list is posted. — Carl (CBM · talk) 02:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Note that the HTML list provides a link to the project, I presume the machine-readable form does too - could that help? Do you think this is something you'll be able to do for us? I know there are a lot of projects to contact, 1200-1400! Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 03:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this! It's way beyond me, that's all I know. We'll ask around. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 19:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Buckeye Border Conference

A tag has been placed on Template:Buckeye Border Conference requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

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OHU image tagging

this edit is no good. It's essential to keep the correct tags on images, so reusers know what they're dealing with and so forth. I reverted the edit, though if you want to keep the rationale around for no particular reason, feel free. THe image talk is probably a better place for it, though. WilyD 21:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

• The image is not copyrighted. It's not an advertisement, it's a logo. Simple text logos are not copyrightable. English Wikipedia is usually hyperconservative about declaring things copyrighted, because we can, but other projects will just recognise it's not - our best practice is to move it up to commons. WilyD 22:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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WP:CHICAGO tagging

I just added a bunch of categories at WP:CHIBOTCATS. I don't know if that affects what you do.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I just went through them all. Next time if there is an easier way to do it that would be helpful. Can you rerun your bot with the new cats?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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coord normalization

I reverted your revert on List of Registered Historic Places in Ohio since you didn't seem to understand my change. The precision and value of each coordinate is identical, before and after. I'm fixing all the articles which have coord template errors, particularly minutes or seconds being 60 or greater. —EncMstr (talk) 03:04, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Ellen J. Kullman

Just wondering why the bot is tagging this with the Wikiproject Chicago template? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 04:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Per my orders ShepBot is to tag all articles at WP:CHIBOTCATS, Kullman happens to have Category:Northwestern University alumni on their page so it was tagged. If you believe this category should not be tagged for WikiProject Chicago please contact the project at WT:CHICAGO. Thank you for your comments, they help things run more smoothly! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 15:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah OK got it -- I didn't realise that the cat triggered the tagging - no problem with that, but I may move the template below the other two. – ukexpat (talk) 15:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Vejvančický has done this : (Jenůfa) (Czech)^ⓘ but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? --Kleinzach 22:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Pectus 1

It's from, I think, an adult dating site, adult friend finder. I suspect I signed away my rights to the photo. Either way, as the subject, I don't mind it being here, though I am... fairly thankful that whomever uploaded it cropped my face out. If my face was still in it, I would be complaining. 128.255.187.32 (talk) 16:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Actualy... that might not be me... I'm less certain now. Then again it's been four years. I gained 20 lbs since then and now weigh 170, and I grew chest hair. 128.255.187.32 (talk) 16:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Happy first edit day!

Happy First Edit Day, Stepshep/Archive 5, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Yay! Hope you're feeling well, preferably without pain medicine but whatever works, right? Hugs, ~ L'Aquatique[talk] 00:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, you put your name in at the birthday committee, and I just happened to notice it on my dashboard. Is this the beginning of your second year? ~ L'Aquatique[talk] 00:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! My first edit day is coming up, only I'm celebrating two years. This was my first edit: [2], real exciting, I know. Oh, speaking of diffs, did you know that I'm "really, really, really terrible at being a Wiki Staff member"? ~ L'Aquatique[talk] 03:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Stepshep, I'd like to thank you for voting in my RFA. Thanks also for expressing your trust in me, and I hope that I live up to your expectations. Don't forget, if you have any questions (or bits of advice), please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again, Spencer^T♦C 03:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

AAU reminder notice

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WikiProject Classical music job

Hi. Is the bot in full operation again? If so I wonder if we can do one of the music-related jobs still left over from the summer? --Kleinzach 00:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. All the bannering has been done so it's no longer a mater of avoiding templates. It's autostubbing - making all articles with Classical Music banners that have stub tags (of any kind) into stub class. The stubs tags themselves are unreliable/cross-project so they can't be used (there are about 50 of them, see Stubs for the full horror). To give you an idea of the scale, there are 9,419 Classical music articles, of which 6,991 are unassessed. Richard0612 had a go at this but wasn't able to figure out how to do it. If you are willing to have a go, we should start with a small sample of 50 articles or so. If it's too difficult to attempt then please just tell me and we can leave it. Best. --Kleinzach 22:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, maybe it's just because it's late.. but I'm a bit confused. (sorry) Do you want me to tag articles as stubs with only these tags or any tag in the whole wide wiki? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

You're not confused. It's just a weird situation. We need to mark all articles with Classical Music banners that have stub tags (of any kind or type) as stub class. This means only articles with Classical Music banners. The stub kind or type doesn't matter. --Kleinzach 04:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Graphic lab/top

No, i don't mind; In fact your change is great and useful, thanks for your contributions.   ■ MMXX^talk  18:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Great work

A new GA. Great. Which one?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Sadly, Homerpalooza is not truly a part of WP:CHICAGO.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Yankees logo

I don't think you're right that the jersey logo is in the public domain. A version of their interlocking "N" and "Y" was in use before 1923, but not the current version. It has been adapted and changed over the years, and the current version dates from the 1960s. If they don't own that because it bears resemblance to the original one, then they don't own the cap logo or print logo either (from the 1970s and 1960s, respectively), as they bear equal resemblance to the 1909 logo. That seems very unlikely to me. Sounds like we need a lawyer to weigh in before such an assertion. SixFourThree (talk) 13:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Wikiproject reworking

Sorry to say, I'm not the best person to ask, as I'm not of a person for æsthetics. It does look nice, and it looks more like many other wikiproject front pages than the current version does, but that's all I can say. Nyttend (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

adding new NRHP listings

Hi. You asked how to add new NRHP listings into List of RHPs in OH, with reference to several new listings noted. I went to do one of the list, to inform myself to comment most specifically about how to do it for the rest. But I found "Ansel Road Apartment Buildings Historic District" was already added to the Cleveland sublist within Cuyahoga county's list. Perhaps they are already all added? User:Sanfranman59 has been updating the Ohio lists, and the "updated as of" date states as of October 10 now, so actually i would be disappointed if those were not already in the tables (and Sanfranman59 should be notified).

Anyhow, there is no trick to how to do it...the new listings have to be added manually by copying another row and editing it. The new listing info does not include coordinates, so you can either leave that blank, or you can look up coordinates based on the street address given. You can get coordinates from google maps, for example. See Wikipedia:Obtaining geographic coordinates for tips. I have some notes also in the "Coordinates" section of wp:NRHPMOS, too. That covers converting from decimal to degrees-minutes-seconds for adding to a NRHP infobox (which only accepts d-m-s format), but the list-tables can have decimal coords.

Cheers, doncram (talk) 04:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

DMOZ?

Hi,

I was the one that put the links back into the pectus excavatum article. What's DMOZ and why did you remove the external links? Just wondering.

--Seth Goldin (talk) 21:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Courthouses

Just one request: when you create articles like Hardin County Courthouse, could you please add the {{Ohio County Courthouses}} to the bottom? Thanks for your work! Nyttend (talk) 01:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, another request: could you please add Category:Courthouses in Ohio as well? Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

More on the Yankees logo

According to Tess, the logo in question was first used in 1960[:::My source for that is TESS, which gives a first use date of 1960[3], and it is under active trademark. Not PD. SixFourThree (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Well, shoot. It doesn't look as though TESS lets us link right to individual pages. I know that trademark doesn't equal copyright, but trademark protection does mean that a logo is not in the public domain, which is the question at hand. SixFourThree (talk) 19:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Thanks for the link. What seems really at issue is whether a trademarked logo can be in the public domain. He's claiming that a logo is public domain because it resembles another logo which he claims is also in the public domain. Whatever I think of the validity of that argument (not much), the PD status of his second image doesn't appear to be as he represents it. SixFourThree (talk) 20:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Template:Classical

Hi. Someone has just noticed the strange text for this. I've checked and found you changed the text for this on 21 June. It seems you changed the Classical Music banner text to the Composers banner one. It's very odd. I guess we must have become confused as some point. Do you remember anything about this? I've asked for it to be unprotected so we can correct it. --Kleinzach 10:24, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I think you must have copied the text over with the code from the Composers banner and I never noticed. Interesting that nobody said anything for four months! I guess nobody actually reads these things! --Kleinzach 22:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Classical music job

I did my best, and the tagging has began. What it has come down to is I scanned each article for the word "Stub", if it has stub in it it was tagged as "|class=stub|auto=yes" That means there are more than likely to be a handful of false positives, but nothing drastic by any means. I'll report here when the run is finished. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Shep: You have done a bot run through about 2,000 articles - not the test run of 50 that I asked for! I wrote: "If you are willing to have a go, we should start with a small sample of 50 articles or so." There is no way I can check this huge run for false positives. Has the run finished or is it still going on? --Kleinzach 23:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Uh... where? You really shoudln't worry about false positives anyways; I didn't tag any new articles. I've done runs for lots of projects and ypu're the only one who double check my work. Yep, the run is done. Everything will be fine. But really, "do 50" isn't in my archive. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

My experience - after working with five different bot owners - is that the scripts always need to be checked otherwise there will be complaints from other editors and hours of editing to be done. After one botched job by a bot owner (who did a long, untested run that had not been asked for - on a project only half the size of Classical Music - I spent seven hours making corrections).

When I did the previous runs with you it took a lot of effort to get everything right (see bot run). Having done the checks we were able to do clean runs and there were no complaints from other editors.

"But really, "do 50" isn't in my archive". Sorry? Do you mean you can't find my message? It's in your archive 5 (22:42, 8 October 2008). Or do you mean that you are not willing to do test runs? Can you please clarify what you mean? --Kleinzach 23:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

OK. A misunderstanding. I understand. I suppose we will just have to hope there won't be any complaints. It's potentially sensitive because of the opposition to assessments in the music projects. (It's not just a matter of irritating individual article editors by making bot errors.) WikiProject Classical music was/is probably the worse structured project I've worked on, hence the problems. In the future it should be easier. --Kleinzach 00:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I thought you were asleep! The good news is that I haven't found any errors so far. I found a cache of Jazz articles but they dated back to the bannering. 'Interestingly' the Jazz community use 'Classical' as meaning 'old and famous' rather than 'to do with classical music'. Anyway no big problems so far. --Kleinzach 02:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Alas, complaints there are. See Talk:Große Fuge#Why is this article classed as a stub?. Your bot apparently thought the article was a stub because it contained the word "stubborn".

Your Bot tagged at least two articles I have worked on as stubs, which emphatically were not stubs. --Ravpapa (talk) 04:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Which ones were they? --Kleinzach 00:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

That's too bad, get over it. Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 21:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Ohio television station stubs

Greetings! I see you have recently created one or more new stub templates or categories. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types be proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. This helps to reach consensus about whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries, where comments are welcome as to any rationale for this stub type. Please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals! This message is a boilerplate, left here as a courtesy, and should not be considered personal in nature. Nyttend (talk) 02:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Break

Please be careful with the Ohio Television Station Stubs templates, you marked WVFX as a Ohio station. WVFX is located in West Virginia and it's coverage doesn't reach Ohio. - NeutralHomer • Talk • October 18, 2008 @ 02:27

Replied at your page. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I am not sure. What category are you using? - NeutralHomer • Talk • October 18, 2008 @ 02:30

It appears that a bot, Alaibot, added it to the page. Not sure why, but as long as it is taken care of, everyone is happy :) Sorry for the confusion. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • October 18, 2008 @ 02:38

Stub tagging of Marie Novello

I see that your bot tagged Marie Novello as a stub--and, based on the criteria established for it, quite appropriately, as that article does carry the "stub" classification. My concern: to a large extent through my plinking at it, the article has grown beyond what I would consider truly a "stub," but given my close involvement in the thing I've been hesitant to remove the tag. I guess I figured that in due course someone independently would reassess the article and remove the tag if appropriate, just as somebody pinned a "cleanup" tag on it (alas, without offering any suggestions about what to clean up). Please forgive my ignorance, but how does such reassessment come about, or does it? If, as I'm beginning to suspect, it doesn't of its own accord, should I suggest that it happen, and if so, to whom? Thanks for your help, and, again, my apologies for being so far down the learning curve! Drhoehl (talk) 21:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

This is where it gets tricky. Different WikiProjects have different rules. As a general rule of thumb it's bad form to assess articles you've worked on considerably. But once the article has passed a few sentences or so in length it is no longer a stub article and you can remove the {{stub}} tag. When an article is no longer a stub is generally personal opinion, though, so use your best judgement. To have an article be reassessed you can do it yourself (it's just not always welcomed) or ask the corresponding WikiProject(s) to look at it. In this case it would be appropriate to ask the projects listed at Talk:Marie Novello. I'll make some changes so you can see what I mean. I hope this is helpful and not confusing. If it's confusing just let me know and I'll try again. :) §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I had suspected that one who worked extensively on an article would best not mess with its assessment--thanks for confirming that and for adjusting the article's status accordingly. Thanks, too, for elaborating the "cleanup" tag on the article, and now that I have an idea of what needs to be done to improve it, in due course I'll give it the old college try. (You've also given me food for thought about how to address a "wikify" tag someone placed on another article that I've periodically expanded, Friedrich Wührer; alas, my subsequent request for further guidance from the "tagger" did not meet with the helpful response that you've given me.) I assume that, as with a stub tag, I'd do best to let an independent party determine whether such efforts suffice to justify removing the cleanup tags. Anyhow, your explanation is clear and illuminating, and I really appreciate your taking time to help me learn something! Drhoehl (talk) 02:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it might be some time until someone sees an article after it's been fixed up. You can remove those tags if you believe you've fixed the issue. But, then again, that's just what I do. I'm not sure of a set norm. Feel free to come by and ask any questions in the future, I'd be glad to help however I can or point you to someone who can. Cheers, §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

New entry on Cincinnati NRHP list

Hi Shep ... I don't know about being the person to come to about these things, but the numbering in the NRHP lists are is supposedly alphabetic by the first "significant" word in the name of the site. In most cases, it's just the first letter of the first word unless the name starts with an article (e.g. The) or begins with the name of a person. The latter sites are sorted by the first letter of the person's last name. It gets a fuzzier for me when the first word of the site name is an abbreviation, especially St., as in St. Paul's Church ... I don't know if this should be sorted as St. or Saint. I would place Sedamsville River Road Historic District between George Scott House and SHOWBOAT MAJESTIC in the Cincinnati list. Hope that helps. --sanfranman59 (talk) 04:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Gull Island

Hi, just wondering where you found the coordinates you added for Gull Island Shoal (Lake Erie)? GNIS has nothing by that name. The coordinates that you added, 41°39′55″N 82°41′37″W, are far off to the east of Middle Bass Island. But the sources you added describe it as either off the southern shore of South Bass Island[4] or as between Middle Island and Kelleys Island.[5] The first describes an alternate name as Starve Island, which is in gnis at U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: Starve Island. In the second, this appears to be listed at "Starve Island (Reef)", which is different from the one listed as "(extinct) Gull Island Shoal". the coordinates appear to be trying for the second one, but it isn't very clear.older ≠ wiser 22:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I grabbed the coords from [6] which is a site where memebers end in the GPS data. I assumed a fisher who goes to the island often would be the best source to go to. If you believe you have better info feel free to replace it. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

,No I don't necessarily have better info. But there may be conflicting information if these are referring to two different places. In particular, the description of the shoal consisting of 2 acres in area applies to Starve Island, which appears to still consist of about that area. Also, the description as just south of South Bass Island is at odds with the given coordinates. older ≠ wiser 23:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

From the NPS site, I was under the impression the two were one. I honestly don't have time to figure to this one out, so I'll remove the info that hints at it possibly being Starve. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 23:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Text and SVGs on wikipedia

I've noticed the same thing. Apparently the program that creates the thumbnails from SVG files is not perfect. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 02:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Ohio

Thanks for the invite! Eclectic hippie ^{talk to me} 20:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Article alerts

Just a quick note per your request: The article alerts bot is open for subscriptions now. (See User talk:B. Wolterding/Article alerts#Open for subscriptions for details.) --B. Wolterding (talk) 09:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Ohio Wesleyan University

Normally I don't care about importance ratings, it isn't something I watch. And under normal circumstances, I would agree, OWU is not a major enough university to be high importance, BUT doesn't being an FA make an article by default high importance? Eg once that level is achieved, I would think there should be a concerted effort to maintain that quality, even if the article normally might not be high importance.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 23:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

That depends on the project. For WikiProject Ohio our importance is based on how important an article is to overall coverage and comprehension of Ohio. Therefore, an article that may be of high importance for WikiProject Universities is still of Low importance for WikiProject Ohio. We originally did importance with class as a factor, but other members decided that we should base it solely on the (working in progress) criteria at WP:OH/A which no longer has class as a factor. Hope that helps. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 04:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Works for me... I just thought it was kind of weird to see an FA be dropped to mid importance... But alas, I am not part of WP:OHIO.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 13:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of a template redirect

I have nominated a redirect to a template for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz ^talk 14:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Closure of WP:GEOBOT

Regrettably I have come to inform you, that this bot project will not go into operation and therefore the project will be closing down. Thanks everybody for their time and support but there is a clear reason why it failed. Dr. Blofeld (talk) 11:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:OHIO popular pages

Sure, I'll add it to the list for the next run in a few days. Mr.Z-man 01:58, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Awesome! This should help us target articles that need to be kept an eye on. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Member Activity

Hello Stepshep! Good to hear from you, please take a trip over and check this out. Let me know what you would liked changed. I can also make you a version in the sortable tables, if you like. I can set the bot up to continue to update your member page every x days to keep the list up-to-date, if you like. Let me know what you think. Thank you for your time, MatthewYeager 04:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

That's pretty cool. I did spot one problem though. This one is probably my fault though. The members listed as inactive with 0 edits have made edits, and some of them within the last 6 months barrier. Would it be possible to change [Less than 25 edits] to [Possibly inactive]? Also, this might not be possible, even if they have less than 25 could they still be in the list alphabetically instead of in their own alphabetic list at the bottom of each list? And one last request I noticed you mody the person's sig to the generic [[User:X|X]] would it be possible to use {{User}} instead? You can scratch the 0 edits (sorry about the coding going to waste). I guess I lied one last thing, can the headers be modified to Active (Has edited within the last 6 months), Possibly Inactive (Has edited within the last year), and Inactive (No edits within the last year). Thanks for all of the hard work this must have caused you! If it could run every 6 months that would be great. Thanks again! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 18:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I see what your saying I will make the following changes

• I believe the problem with "0 Edits" is that the person who has [[User:X|Y]] where User X has no edits because it redirects to User Y, the real user. I can make the bot follow the redirect and count that person's edits. That should remove all "0 Edit" remarks.
• With the above fix, I would be surprised to see many "[Less than 25 edits]" are still around. I will change this to "[Possibly inactive]".
• There is no problem with sorting the "[Less than 25 edits]" with the other members in their section. I purposely moved them to the bottom, as kind of a Most active\knowledgeable -> least approach. This can be easily changed.
• I will alter to use the {{User}} template.
• I will modify the headers.
• I can set it up to run every 6 months.

Let me know if there is any other changes you see that need to be made. I should have this updated shortly. MatthewYeager 19:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow your quick, and must be pretty talented! Is the current page where the bot will put the updates? Thanks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep, unless you want it someplace else? MatthewYeager 19:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope, I was just checking to make sure I was transcluding the right page. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 19:22, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This has been ran. I would advise manually reviewing and removing the "0 Edits" members, as they appear NOT to be registered wiki users. Let me know if you need any other tasks or questions. Thank you for your time, MatthewYeager 03:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help. Sorry I wasn't clear enough earlier, but I'd prefer to keep the current /Participants page as it is and use this list more for maitenance. Also, would it be possible to have the member list outputted into a table format? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you want them all in one sortable table? MatthewYeager 03:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

• Mulls over thoughts in head* Sure, one table would be good. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

What columns do you want? User, Status (edited last 6 months, 12 months, inactive) any other columns?MatthewYeager 03:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. User, Status, Description (if they typed one after their name), Date Joined*, and Location. I understand that location would be blank for everybody, but having it there would be helpful for expansion purposes. I'm not sure how you check someone's last contribs so this may not be viable. I'll put in bullets because words won't form for some reason

1. Check "user description" for time stamp. ifexist skip to step 5, if not go to step 2
2. Check History of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ohio and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ohio/Participants
3. Compare edits made to users listed as members
4. Find the first edit of each user to either the main project page or the /participants page
5. Import data into a "Date joined" column

Is that viable? If not User, Description, Status, and blank location would be perfect. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI

WT:AWB#AWB access. MaxSem^{(Han shot first!)} 07:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

{{Ohio-bio-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first!

Going by your edit summary, BTW, you need to look up the meaning of "propose", especially the bit about it being a future action. You cannot propose something that's already been done. Grutness...wha? 01:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay. And by propose I meant run run it through your system.§hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

hi there, do you still use the autoassessment code from User:Richard0612 for ur bot ? If so, have seen this bug ?? -- Tinu Cherian - 07:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Slightly modified, but ya that's the same idea. I'm not sure if that's what the code if designed to do though, so it might not be an error. I usually just work with one |class=, and if there's an extra one needed I use a separate regex. Thanks for the heads up though, I'll be interested in what Richard thinks. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

The issue is not with an extra |class= , the issue is when the |class= is reordered within the template , like this

{{WPbanner|something=anything|class=|something2=yes}}
The code expects as {{WPbanner|class=|something=anything|something2=yes}} . I tried to fix it but didnt work out. Btw this (check link) is the current code I am using with some changes from the orginal code of Richard. Looks like He is also away from WP since a few weeks. Reedy improved the code like this(check link) but it has issues when there is no |class= parameter by default.

If I am doing it for WikiProject Computing :

{{WikiProject Computing|importance=|something}}
{{WikiProject United States|class=Start}}
{{WikiProject india|class=GA}}
is changed to

{{WikiProject Computing|importance=|something}}
{{WikiProject United States|class=GAStart}}
{{WikiProject india|class=GA}}

Let us hope reedy or richard helps out.If you get a solution yourself, please let me know too :) -- Tinu Cherian - 04:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)