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Adventure Crossing

Hello Sjb72. I see that my stab at creating an Adventure Crossing page was deleted because, among other things, it read like an advertisement. I think I can see why. And I noticed that cites to a website that has a bias towards the topic is frowned upon (which I did do, I had thought that was OK). So, the main thing I want to point out to the world is the Ax Throwing, which I did there, and is awesome. I would like to take a stab at a new, and much smaller article or "entry" for Adventure Crossing. Is that OK? I have not edited very much in wiki and this is my first new creation. I would like to get it right. Please let me know your thoughts when able. Thank you, Ben Jwvgoethe55 (talk) 01:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I've revisited the article, but this time looking at the references with a view to whether or not it meets the notability requirements. The problem here is that I can't find anything from reliable third party sources that would demonstrate that this place is notable. So even if you do rewrite the article with a neutral tone so it no longer reads like an advertisement, it would probably be deleted as it is not notable.
If you can show me reliable third party sources (ideally, 3 or more), I'll have a look at restoring it. Please note that press releases do not count.
In the meantime, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Stephen! Coming... 12:46, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Hey thank you Stephen for that fast response and detailed guidance (especially the links). I think I understand. And when I get some free time I will take a shot at a shorter entry, submission with the correct neutral language and more robust citations. But I do need to read again the notability item... I think I can show that also. Much appreciated! Ben Jwvgoethe55 (talk) 16:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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Article deleted

Hey you deleted my page Draft:Cl@ve and I need the text for a uni project can you please restore the draft so I can copy it or send me a copy. Thank you Milde.Tamara (talk) 16:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

I have emailed a copy of the text to you. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Stephen! Coming... 11:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Adventure Crossing

Hi Stephen. Sorry to take up your time with this message. I found time to shorten and make more crisp my Adventure Crossing entry, and, I think I resubmitted it. And then I saw your note about the content needing to be "notable." I am slightly confused on that because at nearly 300 acres, this is a massive regional project. It will rival the 6 Flags park next door (also a place I like, and they have a wiki page I also notice, so, I thought this place should have one as well). In fact, it was the njfamily.com article calling it a "mega entertainment center" that drew me to it in the first place, hence my using it as a citation. Just wanted to explain, as I really want to get this right at some point. Thank you for holding my hand on this. Cheers, Ben Jwvgoethe55 (talk) 10:48, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I've posted my thoughts here Stephen! Coming... 11:47, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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Please help to get the draft back online

Hey Stephen,

There was no intention of advertising when the page(Draft:Cyble) was created. All it was to do was represent an organization in the threat intelligence space for which many organizations are present, such as Anomali , Recorded Future. etc. Kindly help what needs to tweaked in order to be present in the Wikipedia space. Thank You. Rajashakher Intha 13:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajashakher (talk • contribs)

In addition to the fact the article was written as if it was advertising copy, there was nothing in there to indicate that the company met the notability requirements. So even if it was rewritten in a more neutral tone, it would still get deleted. As such, I will not be restoring it for rewriting. If you can show me that it meets that with three references (press releases do not count), then I will consider restoring it. Stephen! Coming... 15:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Does these count: Economic Times [1] Nasdaq[2] ABP [3] Bleeding Computers [4] Infosecurity magazine The Hacker News [5] Rajashakher Intha 20:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajashakher (talk • contribs)
Thank you for your response. I had a review of the references, and I don't think they will be sufficient to demonstrate notability. The Nasdaq link just shows the company exists. The Bleeding Computer reference is not enough, because (as far as I can tell), the source is not notable. The other references do appear to be notable secondary sources. However the focus of the articles is not on Cyble but on hacking. Yes, Cyble might have been the company that brought the security issue to light, but that is not sufficient to meet the notability requirement of in depth coverage from multiple notable secondary sources.
I strongly recommend you read the Notability Requirements for Companies and Organisations. Does Cyble meet these requirements? Stephen! Coming... 11:52, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Hey Stephen, Thanks for the revert, i think Cyble meets the requirement as the company has been monitoring Dark Web and had published findings that are taken up/cited by media houses access the globe so that the people or businesses can take necessary measures to be safe. If its possible please restore the draft, We will retweak the content according to the guidelines. Rajashakher Intha 12:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajashakher (talk • contribs)
That may not be sufficient for notability. Think of it this way: if a person or business is named in a number of reports for doing Activity X, they are not classed as notable (although having them included in an article about Activity X might be acceptable). Can you show me why you believe Cyble meets these requirements? Stephen! Coming... 13:33, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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Deleting a Draft Post: A Twisted Path To Renown

Hello, Stephen!

My name is Andrey Sklyarov. I am an author of the draft topic "A Twisted Path To Renown", deleted by you yesterday, 11.14.2023.

It seems like py post violated some of the Wiki rules and I'm sorry for that. I didn't do that intentionally, as I am a newbie and did that for the first time.

I am a Community manager of a small game development studio that is working on a new game which is called "A Twisted Path To Renown" and I wanted to create a Wiki page for it.

My thought were to create a page and later add some pieces of information to that. Now I know it doesn't work that way.

I will write down all the information in a complete article, will save it and then will try create the Wiki page for our game again. This page will be for the players, that need more information about the game, as it is quite complicated for non-experience user.

All I wanted is to notify you, I didn't violate the rules intentionally, and wanted to know if me (my account) and this topic are now compromised and if I can have an opportunity to create a page again.

Thank you very much and have a nice day!

Cheers!

Andrey. Grandpa Drey (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I have reviewed the deleted page again, and I am not convinced it is a suitable article for Wikipedia. For one thing, Wikipedia is not a guide (see WP:NOTGUIDE; there are many more suitable places you could put the information, such as creating a Discord forum. Even if you were to not write the article as a guide, and keep it in a neutral tone so it doesn't read like an advert, this game is unlikely to meet the notability requirements (see WP:NOTE).
If you still believe that the article should exist, you can appeal my decision at Deletion Review. Stephen! Coming... 08:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Stephen!
Thank you for your answer. I believe the article about this game has a right to exist on Wiki. As there are lots of similar games on Wiki as "Escape From Tarkov", "Hunt Showdown", "The Cycle: Frontier" etc. and they exist great while people add information about them.
I still believe that the article should exist but not in the form I posted it, as there was no information about the game itself. At that time I worte only information about the studio, so that article looked the way opposite to what I wanted.
What would you advise me - to start the new article or to edit the information in the deleted one and send for reviewing it again? Grandpa Drey (talk) 11:48, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Just because other games have articles does not mean that all similar games should have articles; see WP:OTHER. I would suggest that before you even think about rewriting the article, you need to demonstrate WHY it meets the notability requirements. Given that this is a newly released game, I have my doubts.
Also, are you involved with this game in any manner? If so, there is a Conflict of Interest (see WP:COI, in which case it is strongly recommended that you do not write the article, even if it does meet the notability requirements. Stephen! Coming... 12:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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