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Thank you! Very helpful links and impressive work/track record, it's good to be here :) SamwiseGSix (talk) 21:16, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023[edit]

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Yes of course - all very good resources no doubt and happy to keep discussions very focused in the topic-specific talk pages, especially the more sensitive ones. Hopefully information and perspective relevant to improvements of the pages in question (shared NPOV standards, ontological/epistomological comparison etc) can be shareable within reason in such a setting as well.
On the subject of user talk pages, in browsing through your talk and homepages I did very much appreciate (if I may say so) the inclusion of reference to the heroic service of V. Admiral Arkhipov and Col. Petrov - they sure did help save humanity by not launching their nuclear payloads in '62 and '83 respectively, nice add there :)
Their service in helping preserve humanity’s existence in the face of existential nuclear threat deserves great accolades, especially in these turbulent times today where the exponential explosion of AI on top of the continued lack of a comprehensive diplomatic framework seems to compound existential/catastrophic risk to ever higher levels.. We may genuinely want to to see similar capabilities and sense in our fellow humans and leadership (has humanity yet developed common sense in the face of the AI? Common decency? Etc) in the short term here as well..
Very interesting related existentialism mentions also (applicable in philosophy of technology et al) and quote in Latin around homeland and Plato you’ve featured also, a bit more of an Aristotelian here though maybe myself I suppose ;)
Heidegger as you mention while indeed quite interesting (including in philosophy of technology) did flow somewhat with the materialistic presuppositions of his times right (common refrains of existence precedes essence from the Existentialists etc) and has also been recently more closely scrutinized for latent party affiliations hm
Ah and yes sure Jung was quite the fellow, somewhat of a focus on the unconscious though perhaps eh - I suppose an appropriate primary focus at this point could be somewhere around 'how might we be able to help humanity even survive' the turbulence etc we're experiencing these days, and/or perhaps 'how could we help humanity even continue to exist' as AI and AGI develop in the coming years as well? Certainly open to follow up thoughts in this area on my user talk page here in addition where helpful - including perhaps around philosophy of technology and diplomacy etc, onwards and upwards ;) SamwiseGSix (talk) 13:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as you did at Talk:Anthroposophy, you may be blocked from editing. Your shenanigans about materialism have become tedious. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes. We are biased.[edit]

Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once wrote:[1][2][3][4]

Wikipedia's policies ... are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately.

What we won't do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of "true scientific discourse". It isn't.

So yes, we are biased.

And we are not going to change. tgeorgescu (talk) 04:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

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  9. ^ Talk:Acupuncture/Archive 13#Strong Bias towards Skeptic Researchers
  10. ^ Talk:Energy (esotericism)/Archive 1#Bias
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  20. ^ Talk:Holocaust denial/Archive 12#Blatant bias on this page
  21. ^ Talk:Flat Earth/Archive 7#Disinformation, the EARTH IS FLAT and this can be SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. This article is not about Flat Earth, it promotes a round earth.
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November 2023[edit]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use talk pages for inappropriate discussions, as you did at Talk:Anthroposophy. For inane arguments like for the sake of a decent and humane future. Humanity faces existential risk. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Anthroposophy. See WP:PSCI, which is part and parcel of WP:NPOV. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RSN notice[edit]

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Anthroposophy. tgeorgescu (talk) 15:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to know why you might be blocked, read WP:REHASH. Slatersteven (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion[edit]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is SamwiseGSix. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:03, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AE discussion closed[edit]

Hello SamwiseGSix. Please see the decision related to the AE request opened November 13th relating to pseudoscience. No sanctions have been applied against you but you have been formally warned for not following directions of reviewing administrators to cease constant editing of your statement and going over the 500 word count without permission. It is politely suggested that you might want to find other areas of interest on Wikipedia to edit, at least for a while, to let things calm down. Please review the comments from the reviewing administrators as there are suggestions in there that could be useful. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you and fair enough, I have been closely reviewing the helpful comments from the reviewing administrators here as well. As filing editor had been going over on wordcount I had been encouraged to add response comments below my statement at limit and thought I had also requested permission in the process via edit comment, apologies if this was the incorrect channel to do so - it does appear in hindsight that going through a talk page for example would be better. It being first my AE encounter here (good to see editors acknowledging other more fitting resolution channels in hindsight) I did not fully understand all of the statement editing instructions initially (again, apologies) but do believe that I have a much better understanding of them now. Yes I am happy to work on editing in other areas of Wikipedia as things settle, including recommended articles for neutral or encyclopedic tone, and also around themes of AI alignment, diplomacy, existential risk, philosophy of technology, and more. Thank you for your and your team's help in administrating this process, and for the fair update overall here as well. SamwiseGSix (talk) 19:52, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2024[edit]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Rudolf Steiner. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]