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William Smith (footballer)

Hi mate, I saw your note on Talk:William Smith (footballer) and I've tried to sort out the content so that it's just about Stockport Smith. Since we don't know enough about either player to disambiguate any other way, do you think it's worth moving this article to Stockport Smith and creating one for Buxton Smith? – PeeJay 19:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I haven't got a birth date for Stockport in any of my Man Utd books, so sorry I can't help there. And I think, because he spent most of his pro career with City (as far as we know), it would be fair to say that Stockport Smith is his most common name. Add to that the fact that it's a pretty good disambiguator, I think we could go ahead and move the current article to Stockport Smith. – PeeJay 23:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Derek Kevan

I should be able to add a few bits and pieces to the article. Will have a look at books over the next few days. --Jameboy (talk) 23:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I know I have more that I can add but I'm taking a break from editing at the moment and not sure when I will be back. Will try to do more when I return. Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 01:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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1930 World Cup

I send picture of the official medal to Fifa, it would make sense because you can't have bronze medal and made it 4th place. I know that issue. USA doesn't show it her medal and official page of Fifa can be fixed to opposite side. It will be responded in day or two in witch case it would make some serious changes here. ^{Snake bgd} 20:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok lets edit with official Fifa results with exception that bought national teams have bronze medals and that means that are bought 3rd. ^{Snake bgd} 22:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

If you are interested in those newspapers i can translate you any section, tell witch one you want. ^{Snake bgd} 22:10, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is. Politika is oldest Serbian (then Yugoslavian) newspaper founded in 1904. You translated that good. ^{Snake bgd} 22:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Here is some intresed part form newspaper: "First column of the victorious Yugoslav tricolor flapped the first time, too, our country entered the front lines of the strongest and most powerful representatives footballing. It is an honor that many states have experienced. Let all our players affects the lofty beautiful thank you for the tremendous reputation that they obtained their homeland, the great reputation that made the Yugoslav football, the sincere and profound happiness that we create. (...) To meet the United States - Yugoslavia is not held, it is the third took into account the outcome of the match Uruguay - Argentina. That the outcome of this game turned out more favorable to Argentina, and it would be her semifinal opponent came from outside Yugoslavia. Since, however, there is a way around it awarded Yugoslavia third place after Uruguay won the victory over Argentina, regarded as a stronger and better team than Argentina. Our will play a few more games in South America, but not as a national team, but under the name B. S. K.-a." ^{Snake bgd} 22:33, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Upgrade to City season articles template

Hey OEP. I've been doing a bit of work (or rather, have only just started with doing a bit of work) to the early end of the City history articles and season articles and considering the situation, am thinking of updating the template for the season articles. I've done a mock-up of what I'm thinking of and it looks a little like this. I've already sampled PeeJay's opinion and he seems broadly in favour, but I wanted a few more opinions before blindly rushing in and changing something as drastically as this. Also I won't be rolling it out until every season article from 1880-81 through to 1889-90 has been published, which is something I'm working through at the moment, so no hurries for you or me to sort this/critique.

In case it's not immediately obvious, the colours represent the main shirt colours worn by the teams in question. For St Marks, AFAIK there is no information in existence for this, so I used a default white/black pairing.

Seriously though, I will take any ideas and if you think it's an abomination I'd be happy to simply leave the old one alone, but any opinion is a welcome opinion. Falastur2 ^Talk 17:51, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and I also wrote this a week or so ago. Feel free to give it a read and tell me if there's anything I should improve or alter if you have the time and inclination. Again I don't want to publish before I've turned those red links blue - I'm kind of thinking I'd like to offer it up as a Did You Know candidate and so I don't want to leave anything like the red links out as an eyesore. I know that I probably need to write an introductory paragraph or three but other than that I'm not immediately sure what else to add. I don't really have the free content images to add any graphics, for a start.

Anyway, no obligation to read that, but just thought you might be interested. Falastur2 ^Talk 18:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Fair points, and not ones I was entirely unaware of. I've always been an inclusionist at heart, so I naturally instantly favoured adding an article for each season as soon as I knew I had the material for it. But the issue of plagiarism or of simply over-using Toovey had crossed my mind, which is why I had resolved to add, if I got round to it, little more than a one-paragraph filler for each article at the start describing the circumstances and in no place to do anything on the season articles which gave any more information about results than opponents, dates and scorers. You'll notice that the locations for the games appears on my season articles also but Toovey doesn't actually tell you them in his book, I had to do my own research to find that stuff out. I appreciate it's a sensitive subject but I liked to think that my season articles might in fact be a facilitator for the handful of people who read up on this stuff - and let's be honest, not many people are ever going to read these articles, they're on the very niche side of niche - to then go and read Toovey's book because they want to know more. It's a good point, though - to that end, I should really add a bibliography section for his book on each article.

On a related note, the issue of plagiarism first came into my mind when I did a fair bit of bulking out on the first section of the History 1880-1928 article and I've now been deliberately reading through Gary James' book thinking about how much I would want to include on Wikipedia, and deliberately "cutting out" large sections which aren't immediately important to the topic but which books can go on about at length. The 1889 benefit match for the mine workers against Newton Heath for example - I've noticed that a lot of places talk about that game, but I intend to ignore it completely on Wikipedia. Admittedly when I wrote up the filler on that History article I included a little more info than I might now like but you will notice far less incidental information making it into future edits, and I might even go back and retrovert the article a little by removing some of those incidental facts. I feel a little more secure on this issue than others, of course, because Gary James' book is a 300-ish page tome and even though we have four Wikipedia articles on City's history instead of the one, anything I (and others) write up in those articles is never going to come close to rivalling a 300 page study for content and interest factor. I also feel more secure on adding extra info on the Early Grounds article because, frankly, AFAIK James has never tried to present a "here's a history of the early grounds and only the early grounds" text so it's untrodden ground. It's because Toovey's book is far less weighty and almost entirely just match reports that I am going to so studiously refuse to add what information on each season that Toovey provides to the season articles. In line with your suggestions, I'm also heavily considering simply not adding any more season articles, at least pre-1887 (and possibly at all, I'm not sure). As I say, as an inclusionist I want to make one for each of them but I'm not so idealistic that I can't see the truth of what you say.

Incidentally I've spoken to Gary James a few times on the Bluemoon forum. Perhaps it would be worth actively seeking his advise on what he considers to be "too much", and perhaps even what he thinks of Wikipedia full stop? By private message of course, not as a thread.

I did try to quote James and Toovey as much as I could in both my Early Grounds proto-article and the History article, but you're right in that more references are needed (I think DYK asks for one per paragraph, anyway) so I'll work on that later. I'll also check out that Signpost thing you linked, thanks.

Final comment - I'm still not 100% happy with the "Early Grounds of Manchester City F.C." title. I didn't want to use "Stadia" because in pretty much all of the cases here, they didn't build actually stadia there - at least not as far as I have seen reference to. I thought about "pitches" but that seemed a little too low-tech and inelegant, even though it's not entirely inaccurate. Do you have any thoughts? Falastur2 ^Talk 09:10, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I've responded in kind. Falastur2 ^Talk 20:48, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Keith Fahey GA

I haven't addressed everything yet, but could you go back and check what I have done please? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Reviving Eurohockey.net discussion

I came across the discussion about Eurohockey.net that you commented on, which I missed out on. I re-opened it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Reviving_Eurohockey.net_discussion 

. . . because I have some information about the site--namely that it's inactive. I think that's evident from visiting it and seeing that the latest updates were in March 2011. I know the creators of the site and they no longer have anything to do with it. They now operate Eurohockey.com, its successor site, which I mention in the re-opened discussion. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheers. Djob (talk) 16:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Scottish Challenge Cup

Hi Oldelpaso. Thanks for your GA review of the article I nominated. I will try and see to the points you mentioned on the talkpage as quickly as possible. Thanks, Cal Umbra 23:54, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again for your assistance. Cal Umbra 17:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

New York City FC

Worth suggesting as a DYK, do you think? Bit more publicity if nothing else... Falastur2 ^Talk 16:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Seems it's already been nominated. I don't much like their pull though - just using a line about the Mets opposing the Flushing Meadows stadium. Falastur2 ^Talk 23:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Incidentally, I finally got round to making those improvements - mainly the in-line citations - to the "Early Grounds" article. If you give your consent, I think I'm ready to publish it. Falastur2 ^Talk 00:09, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Article published, references made in the Hyde Road article, and the new article nominated for DYK. If you wanted to mozy on over and add a review, I would be obliged.

Cracking match against Chelsea, by the by. Did you watch it? Falastur2 ^Talk 01:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

It's all good. I'm hard enough on myself - I may not like admitting that people need to correct things of mine but I'm never brash enough to believe that my work can't be improved, and I take no offence for the way you did it. I've always had a bit of a problem with inserting over-long sentences into text anyway; it's one of my most annoying flaws. Probably derives from the way that I often find it hard to filter between important bits to add to the text and circumstantial or unimportant details. To me it's so crucial to know absolutely everything about something if you are to truly understand it. Anyway, thanks for the assistance, just hope it gets reviewed soon. How did the GNR go, by the way? Falastur2 ^Talk 09:27, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Ouch. Though only one second out isn't bad at all - once you've gotten over the initial disappointment then you can surely contend yourself with knowing that a one-second gap is, in terms of effort and performance, essentially nothing at all. Congratulations on your PB. And yeah - it's funny. Academically I come from a mathematical background, but I am much more of a literature person in actual fact. I often read through novels thinking about how I would've altered the paragraph I just read or this and that. Eh, I'm a man of many contradictions in truth. Falastur2 ^Talk 10:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Adminship co-nomination

Hi, I've agreed to be nominated for adminship by Mr. Stradivarius, and I'm wondering if you and/or Struway2 would be interested in co-nominating me? Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 10:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the fact you'd previously mentioned running for RfA came to mind when I thought of asking you. I'll let you know when I've formally accepted. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 19:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Now live. Please be gentle :-) Mattythewhite (talk) 20:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

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Early ground DYK nomination

Hey OEP. I made my nomination live a few days back but it seems to have fallen by the wayside. Don't suppose you might drop over there and give it a very quick review? Only if you have the time/inclination, of course. Falastur2 ^Talk 23:13, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

It was my main page debut. I'm not sure how much credit I feel entitled to though - I wrote pretty much the entire article, but I didn't nominate it for DYK and I didn't provide the first review, I only commented on it. I wasn't sure if I was entitled to claim review credit, but...I did. So it's all good.

As for the Early grounds DYK, I also spoke to PeeJay and he wrote a rather gushing review praising my efforts, which I also thought was a little more praise than I deserved, but it has been reviewed now. I don't fully understand the DYK process, but I think it still needs someone to OK it and queue it. I'm not really sure who does that or how though, so I guess the waiting game begins? Anyway, thanks for your advice on improvements all the same - if I do get another DYK credit for the Early grounds article then you are entitled to part of the credit also. Falastur2 ^Talk 11:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Denis Law

Hi mate, thanks for the info on Denis Law. I'm still at a loss as to whether those matches should be included in his stats table though. Was the Texaco Cup official enough to be included? I suppose if it is the same competition as the FL Trophy, it should be, but some competitions have waxed and waned in importance over the years, so I'm not sure. – PeeJay 01:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

OSC membership

Thanks. I'm not a member so I didn't have that luxury, but I suspected that there wouldn't be a citable figure for actual membership anyway, which is why I didn't bother trying to find one after a peripheral glance at their website. The number of branches I got from counting up all the individual branches on their website though. Hopefully that bit isn't out of date too... Falastur2 ^Talk 10:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Airdrie

Ive answered your question re dates.[1]Blethering Scot 18:34, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

List of players

I'm sure your prediction will be correct; "B", "C", and "M" are going to be brutal. It's enough of a challenge making sure all of the statistics are correct, then you've got to make sure every player is included and in the correct order. Walls of Jericho (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Kinkladze

That's a surprisingly great article on him. Any idea why it failed FAC? I can spot a few minor glitches but in my opinion it is a worthy candidate and I think it could get there with some work.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:12, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I think I'll open a peer review on it, get some wider input. I really think it deserves to be brought to FAC and this time attract more attention and comments. In the meantime if you could check to see that there's no dead URL links and that the translated Russian content is accurate I'll begin looking through it again within a few days. It could also be updated a little, what has he done since 2011/2?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Andy Holden (athlete)

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Peru national football team FAC review

Hello Oldelpaso. I hope to find you at a good time friend. It has been some years, but the Peru national football team article is still in the FA review process. The article underwent a thorough copy-edit and now is significantly different from the last time you reviewed it. Since you provided helpful reviews to it in the past, your comments (and oppose/support vote) would be much welcomed. Thanks!--MarshalN20 ^Talk 01:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Manchester meetup - location

Hi Simon, I spotted your comment on the Manchester meetup talk page. Very good point, thanks! The Waterhouse is clearly not a good location on the 18th. Rather than cancel or postpone, I think we should find an alternative venue, probably on the other side of town, but still within striking distance of Victoria and Pickledwilly.
What do you think about the Jolly Angler on Ducie Street? Do you know it? I don't, but reviews I've read seem favourable (it might not have wifi, but we can cope without that I suppose). Or do you have another suggestion?
Cheers, and I hope to see you there - it's been a while. Bazonka (talk) 16:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Lescott - Reply

Hi there ODP, AL "here",

thank for your kind and in-depth message in my talk page. Also, sad to hear DK is leaving, but guess what? So am i after eight years, it was a good run overall, but it's not very fun anymore, will edit to the best of my abilities until the end of the 2014 FIFA World Cup, then "make way for the newer wiki-generation" :)

That "slower than a pint of milk" really brought a smile to my face. Yes, undoubtedly Lescott is quite "challenged" technically, and Demichelis is more evolved in that department, but i'll NEVER understand teams that play with two, one or zero national players, and that's a reality in both the Premier League and the Primeira Liga, just to name the examples closer to us. I'll be rooting for Sevilla FC in the 2014 UEFA Europa League Final, don't support any club in my country, but if i did it would never be S.L. Benfica, F.C. Porto or Sporting Clube de Portugal. Pellegrini seems like a polite and courteous human being, so i'm glad his team took the title over this guy - i'm Portuguese but i'm not blind - but his squad approach, unfortunately, is that of 99,999999999999999999% of the managers in the world, "the more (foreigners) the merrier". Stoke City, one of the teams (i read that last year, can't remember where) with the lowest budgets in the PL, never played with more than TWO (!) English players ALL season, last game against Fulham they fielded zero, talk about a tight budget... Maybe i'm seeing things wrong, but if i am, would like to know where in your opinion please.

Will now drop a message in Kangaroo's page, thanks for yours again. Be safe, "whistle" if you need anything until 12 JULY. --AL (talk) 22:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yes indeed, i have tried to take the odd break, it has never amounted to anything though. Thanks again for your insightful message, keep it up --AL (talk) 18:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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"A–Z of Manchester Football" ISBN

I saw on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Booklist that you own a copy of "A–Z of Manchester Football: 100 Years of Rivalry 1878–1978" by Derek Brandon. I've been fixing ISBNs, and I noticed that this book is listed on a few pages as having the invalid ISBN "0-86148-001-7". Would you please verify the ISBN with your copy and let me know what ISBN it lists, if any? Thanks, {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 22:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Just checked it , and the ISBN listed in the book is indeed 0 86148 001 7. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:21, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi am Jwale2,I am passionate about sport and i need you to help me out to improve upon my articles on sports in wikipedia projects.I know you are experienced sports writer and i believe that if you help out i would be good as you are.I have not yet started a sport article my self what i do is only edit am looking forward to your experience and direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwale2 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Joanne Pavey

Why the move? No discussion was even initiated on the talk page, so obviously there is no consensus. You just did it on your own volition? She has a 25 year competitive history with numerous results. Yes, the redirect will find the article, but (in violation of WP:COMMONNAME I am finding about a 75% / 25% in favor of the formal name in results rather than the nickname you just redirected to. I've been linking this name for several years, the article has been in existence for almost exactly 8 years. You made your first edit (I assume your first contact) with this article in the last few minutes. How well have you researched your unilateral decision? Trackinfo (talk) 23:54, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Starting with the worldwide governing body: Joanne; the top athletics statistics site joanne; the BBC Joanne; Eurosport Joanne; her own website show the shortened name pictorial in the header but the site name is joannepavey.com Its obvious the sport statistics, the media of the world (which is largely what we report on wikipedia), use the formal name, while in person she might use the shortened version. Jo is not exactly a stage name she is out trying to sell. Trackinfo (talk) 08:58, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Little Tin Idol replica picture

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List of Non-Professional Marathon Runners

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List of disputed marathon runners / Marathon course-cutting

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Kelechi Iheanacho

Hi OEP. Noticed that some rookie has come along and made a handful of new articles about City youths who, while I support the effort in principle, clearly do not qualify for articles at present. Most of them seem to have been deleted already, but it seems Kelechi Iheanacho has not. It's only a matter of time until that article is deleted, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the quality of the article, so could you perhaps userify the article onto my userspace so that we have a convenient backup for when Nacho (inevitably) gets his first senior game and qualifies to be there? Falastur2 ^Talk 22:16, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I knew you'd been involved in expanding it. I was a bit surprised, actually, since it's pretty clear his article is for the chop. I just wasn't sure what you'd do with the article when it gets deleted. Falastur2 ^Talk 18:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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List of York City F.C. players (fewer than 25 appearances)

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Going AWOL?

I had assumed that when I changed the stats. of Barnes, Young, Oakes and Quinn to align them with their supporting M.E.N. articles you would immediately push back and dispute them the way you did with the comparable changes done for Book, Booth, Power and Rösler which allowed us to focus in and determine the actual game(s) that were causing the Apps. tally discrepancy in each case and document it accordingly with a footnote. Do I assume from the fact that you haven't done so that you simply agree with those changes or that you have gone AWOL instead?

While waiting for your responses I simply pushed on with the process of working up from the bottom of the "List of players" table and validating each player's stats. as reported by Soccerbase against multiple other sources to determine if those players could still be genuinely sourced from there (by means of editorial adjustments plus the addition of explanatory footnotes) or even moved over to being sourced from Soccerbase if they weren't already. As you can see from the current state of the article I have gone quite a bit further than the David James / Antoine Sibierski divide I had mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Most of the players I had described back then as falling into a grey area (between Sibierski and Dickov) have since been successfully sourced to Soccerbase and I am almost done with processing them all (by migrating them from the "Historic players" table to the "Contemporary players" table). Horlock, Dickov and Brown will probably be the last three players that can be sourced to Soccerbase. That will probably be a good juncture at which to leave the two tables as they are for some period while we work out what can be done next.

Beyond Dickov Soccerbase is not much use (as in the cases of Kinkladze and Rösler), which leaves only the two flavours of James - i.e., the book version of his stats. and the version of his stats. that are now embodied on Bluemoon - as viable, but potentially conflicting, data sources for the rest of the "historic players". The Bluemoon effort by Ric does mean that there is now a web-based source of all this data for virtually every player that has played for MCFC since the club's inception. The $64,000 question is how accurate that data is due to the seemingly high level of errors introduced into the raw data as it was entered into the Bluemoon teamsheet database. I would like to hear your thoughts on that issue. — not really here discuss 20:29, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hello. Do you have access to European Football Yearbook from 1988 to 1995? Xaris333 (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Kilchoman Distllery

I've removed Kilchoman as a redirect to Kilchoman Distillery and have therefore being patching links to the redirect. Therefore I've changed your distilleries page. HTH. Semudobia (talk) 18:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles such as Manchester City F.C. and Georgi Kinkladze, for polishing Scotland national football team to what it became, for the hard work of updates, redirects and project tags, - Simon, here for more than ten years, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Three years ago, you were recipient no. 1523 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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City players articles

Hi OEP. Thanks as ever for your continuing work on updating the players articles - it really is something of a thankless task I think but I very much appreciate the edits.

On that topic though, I've had a gripe for some time now with the way someone split the main List of Players article into so that "contemporary" players are separated. I have never once thought this was a good idea and every year that goes by makes my regard for it all the worse. I'm just polling you for support in finally getting rid of the distinction and putting the article back to the way it was. Thoughts? Falastur2 ^Talk 19:34, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, on the plus side, MLITH is long gone from Wikipedia, so at least that roadblock is gone. For the record, though, I don't believe it was him who first initiated the split.

I'll look into re-merging the two tables when I can, although it has to be said that my enthusiasm for massive editing jobs has somewhat diminished from back in the days. I'll see about how long it takes me. When I get round to it, I'll implement your suggestions though. Falastur2 ^Talk 16:00, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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No idea if you'll ever see this, but you're remembered fondly. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

So happy to see your name again! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Oldelpaso, we have never met but I want to ask you something. Do you want to review FAC Burnley F.C.? (Only if you have the time and desire of course) You have a great track record in writing and reviewing club articles and it would be good to have an experienced user to look at these. If there's anything I can do in return, please let me know. Thanks, WA8MTWAYC (talk) 09:33, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

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