User talk:NorthAntara

Single-letter second-level domain

I spent a considerable amount of time gathering information for the edit I made. It is not reasonable to exclude domains solely because they are primarily owned by a single individual. This is an incorrect basis for exclusion, as the domains I listed were actually owned by two separate groups. If someone is capable of owning such a significant collection of single-letter domains, they should be allowed to do so. They may even own more than what is currently known. Furthermore, just because these domains are not in Latin script does not mean they are any less important than their English counterparts. Each of these domains holds equal significance. I was able to easily locate these domains and plan to add more that are currently in use in the future. Therefore, I urge you to reinstate them in their rightful place. Charlie717 (talk) 07:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

It is important to note that in making an edit to a Wikipedia article, knowledge of the language is crucial. If you were familiar with the language, you would have already included the most significant letters in the language in your edit. Charlie717 (talk) 07:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

The point isn't that they're of some other language/script or that a single person owns many of them. In fact, I personally own 8 single-character Unicode domains; 3 are Latin-lookalike characters and 3 are unique in size, shape, or their effects on surrounding text (e.g. ဪ.com and ㆴ.com) -- 1 of them is on the list as it was added by another editor. The vast majority of the list is there because of the confusion they can cause when comparing them to Latin script and not because they *are* letters of some alphabet.

1) The names you added have none of those characteristics. Wikipedia:NOTDATABASE

2) Your claim of them having different owners is contradicted by your edit very explicitly noting their (single) owner. Wikipedia:PROMOTION

If you think there's some argument to be made for their inclusion, I welcome you to discuss it on Talk:Single-letter second-level domain. If the goal was for the list to be exhaustive, I would just take my list of every codepoint that is a valid domain and add them, but that is clearly not an appropriate or desired solution. NorthAntara (talk) 21:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Both of your points are factually invalid.

1. First, they comply with all the characteristics required to be included in the list. The alphabets and numbers in Bengali are similar and sometimes identical to those of Devanagari (used to write Hindi), Odia, and some other regional scripts like Siddham. Look at the comparison of the Odia script with ancestral and related scripts. [1] If you closely observe the table, you will find what you are looking for and know exactly why I added them.

Some Bengali characters and numbers are similar to English, like the Bengali number 4, which is identical to English 8.

With approximately 300 million native speakers and another 37 million as second language speakers, Bengali is the fifth most-spoken native language and the seventh most-spoken language by the total number of speakers in the world. [2] Hindi is the fourth most-spoken first language in the world, after Mandarin, Spanish and English. If counted together with the mutually intelligible Urdu, it is the third most-spoken language in the world, after Mandarin and English. [3]

So, when talking about something with conviction, make sure you have the humility to know what you are talking about. Your owning 8 single-letter low-value IDNs is irrelevant to the IDNs I added. I speak 9 languages, including the ones I have mentioned, so I know what I am talking about.

2. Nowhere have I mentioned that a single individual owns them. I have said that they are "mostly" owned by a single individual. And the list I added was owned by two groups.

Upon investigation, I have found that only 3 individuals may own the Bengali equivalent of 26 English letters, but the majority stakeholder doesn't use them for any purpose. I have added almost all the domains in use that qualify to be included. I will add a few more shortly.

1. Odia script. (2023, March 10). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odia_script

2. Bengali language. (2023, March 19). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language

3. Hindi. (2023, March 19). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi Charlie717 (talk) 21:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Discussing it here isn't going to do any good. I am only one person - me agreeing with you (and for the record, I don't) wouldn't prevent others from reverting your changes. The only appropriate place for this would be on the Talk page for the article, where there could be some concurrence. NorthAntara (talk) 20:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)