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Kenny Omega RfC

Hey there, Mr.FijiBoiz. I don't believe we've ever interacted. I'm KyleJoan. Nice to make your acquaintance! I see that you have edited the Kenny Omega article in the last few months, so I wanted to notify you of an active RfC on the article's talk page in relation to its lead section. A response from you would be really beneficial to the discussion. Thank you! KyleJoan^talk 17:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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WrestleMania 36

Womens titles are not counted as world titles, never was, never is, anywhere in the world including wwe. Stop violating WP:NOR and adding them in world title section just because you think they belong to world title. If you have actual proof that WWE themselves count it as world title give source or else do not violate WP:OR. Dilbaggg (talk) 05:47, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Jan 4

Hi. I think Wrestle Kingdom part 2 shouldn't be included in the Jan 4 article. In the discussion we talked about this. One thing is the January 4 show, which includes several events (WrestleKingdom, Battlefield, Wrestling World). Wrestle Kingdom was a 2 day event, but the article covers the events that took place on that day, no other. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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NWA Japan

Please, if you are gonna include the name NWA Japan Championship to the Third Belt, use a source. I found nothing about the title belt being called NWA Japan Championship. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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wp:red

Are you familiar with WP:RED?? Just saying that the NJPW shows in the Tokyo Dome probably fall under that guideline and should have been left red to help build an encyclopedia. Red links are 1) not a bad thing and 2) actually a positive thing if the target it presumed notable. I have Reliable Sources for every single red link you removed. Just for future reference, I don't expect you to reinsert the links, but in the future you should keep WP:RED in mind before removing red links. MPJ-DK (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Making sure the sources reflect the content

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Antifa

Hi Mt.FijiBoiz. I don't understand why don't use the order of the reference and why use in the order you insist too many times (You say: It's sensible to list the ideologies in order). Why not going from general to particular (socialism contents Marxism and anarcho-communism)? Can you explain me? --Hades7 (talk) 01:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

• Hello Hades7. I feel that it is sensible to list the ideologies in alphabetical order, particularly because anarchism starts with "A" and is the most prominent ideology of the American antifa movement. Hope this clarifies my position — but I am, of course, not the ruler of Wikipedia so please consult the Antifa (United States) talk page if you still have a problem. --Mt.FijiBoiz 01:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Contrasting with the other sources seems like anarcho-communism it's not necesarily the majority of the movement, seems more like an eclectic movement that inherit some anarcho-communist black block tactics and aesthetics but not share the same goals (in Germany this have also happened in extreme nationalist groups using old WTO 99 anarchist protest tactics). I understand the alphabetical order criteria (although I recognize is the first time I see that criteria used) but checking the whole sources doesn't seems to me that there are too much anarchists and seems there is more heterodox Marxism y radicalized US progressivism in that movement. I'm not really against your edition just I'm not sure is the best approach. I leave this comment for your reflexion, of course maybe I'm wrong with my impressions of the puzzle of the whole sources.--Hades7 (talk) 02:20, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

As I do not want to get into an edit war, I would like to know your specific reasons for each of the templates and categories I removed, and why they, specifically, are valid for this article. My arguments are as follows:

Template:current Socialist rulers: There is no current leader, as such, this template doesn't make any actual sense on the page....

Template:Micronations: The few people who are actually claiming the zone exists aren't actually succeeding from the United States, they are just claiming themselves not part of Seattle, and thus do not qualify as a nation of any sort.

Category:Secessionist towns and cities: Again, not actually a separate nation, thus do not quality as a secessionist town.

Category:Populated places established in 2020: As this is not a newly established populated place, but an existing populated place, this also does not qualify.

I understand that you have added a significant amount to the page, but please do not let that cloud your judgement. Threatening "sanctions" also is not productive in an honest and open debate. These templates and categories just do not fit for this page, as it is currently constructed. If you believe these categories and templates do, in fact, fit on this page, could you please provide some sources as to this being a separate nation, or having a leader, or having not been populated prior to now? Jeancey (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Jeancey, I did not create the Socialist leaders template but the inclusion of socialist "states" with limited recognition, even one's with no centralized leadership is agree upon by Project:Socialism, thus it is included on the CHAZ page. As for the categories, CHAZ absolutely is a populated secessionist town that was created in June 2020. IMO, saying it isn't is like saying that the US didn't come to be in 1776 because settlements in North American existed prior to '76. CHAZ ≠ Capitol Hill and secessionist doesn't necessarily mean independence, it could mean autonomy like in the case of CHAZ. Hope this clarifies my stance (Also, I didn't threaten sanctions, multiple reverts and the escalation of an edit war are grounds for sanctions, though I apologize if I offended you). --Mt.FijiBoiz 07:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Jeancey, I've removed Template:Micronations. With the exception of Freetown Christiania, they all seem to be micronations that have declared independence and not autonomy, which would not apply to CHAZ. --Mt.FijiBoiz 07:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I didn't mean to imply you created the template, just that you added a lot to the CHAZ page. My main issue with the templates stems from the lack of being a nation. If it is still part of the US, it didn't really secede. Likewise, if it isn't a separate nation, it doesn't, technically, have a separate form of government and thus wouldn't be a socialist state. Jeancey (talk) 08:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

CHAZ is an "autonomous anarchist commune" - anarchism falls under the socialism category per the template and the List of socialist states page. Thus it is included like the other autonomous anarchist "states" Rojava, Christiania, and MAREZ. Mt.FijiBoiz 08:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The source on the population is behind a paywall, and I cannot verify it. Could you find a source that is verifiable? Jeancey (talk) 08:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Being behind a paywall does not mean something is not credible. The Daily Telegraph has been deemed credible by Wikipedia per WP:RSPSOURCES. Other editors who may have a problem with the source can try to find a credible site that's not behind a paywall if they'd like. Mt.FijiBoiz 08:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Again, I didn't say it wasn't credible, I asked for something verifiable. The Daily Telegraph is credible, but I cannot verify that the source actually contains the information on the size, since the population of the buildings in the zone doesn't add up to 200, I'd like to actually read the source claiming that 200 people live in buildings where 50 people max would normally live (given the demographics of the neighborhood, 1 bedrooms generally house 1 person, 2 bedrooms house two). Jeancey (talk) 08:29, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The Daily Telegraph article talks about people living in tents on the Zone's streets, hence the 200 number. It's very late here in the Northeastern U.S. and I'm going to bed soon, so if you and other editors want to find a credible source that's not behind a paywall feel free to do so. Thank you for your edits on the Zone page. Mt.FijiBoiz 08:29, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm from seattle, and I went by the area just today. There are people in tents in the park, sure, but none in the streets... I know people who live within the "zone" and none of them have even heard of it until I mentioned it... What source do we have for the authority of the "declaration" of an autonomous zone (since the protesters don't seem to actually live within the zone), it doesn't seem like the page holds much weight there. The 200 population doesn't seem to qualify as they aren't permanent residents... Unfortunately I can't use this in the article due to OR restrictions. Jeancey (talk) 08:51, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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CHAZ/CHOP

WP:ONUS. If you want CHAZ/CHOP to be called a commune, you must reach a consensus on the talk page first. It is a controversial description. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

"Nascent commune" means it appears to be in the beginning stages of becoming a commune. Please, stop adding this to the article. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 23:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Nice4What: Firstly, my apologies, I didn't even mean to re-add that. I just reverted an edit that re-added the unsourced (simply) "Zone" name. However, I believe there could be a debate over what the source means. "Nascent" could also mean "just coming into existence" and CHAZ is seemingly a commune just coming into existence. I think a discussion on CHAZ's talk page should occur before another removal/addition of this sourced material. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 00:01, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring (The Zone to CHAZ)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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@NedFausa: Can you please tell me which edits seem like edit warring? Thanks! Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 00:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

The claims of edit warring seem to be in reference to the change of the proper noun "the Zone" to "CHAZ" and the note about what CHOP stands for. Firstly, I will not "revert" again but no references support the use of the Zone as a proper noun while many do for CHAZ. "The Zone" was challenged by other users, which is why I changed the nomenclature. As for the CHOP note, I still think it should be present. The Seattle Times source (which is used about the name dispute in the Internal governance section) uses both names. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 00:35, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

• This diff shows Nice4What's restoration following your first attempt to globally change important nomenclature without editorial consensus.
• This diff shows you edit warring to restore your disputed change. NedFausa (talk) 00:39, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Please correct me if I'm wrong NedFausa, but isn't there currently a WP:1RR on the article per the American politics blanket WP:ACDS application? (WP:ARBAPDS?) Or are the restrictions simply authorized by the WP:ARBCOM but not yet imposed? In any event, I absolutely agree that this is edit warring and needs to stop now. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 02:34, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@Psiĥedelisto: When an article is subject to discretionary sanctions including a limit of one revert per 24 hours, this WARNING appears on the corresponding talk page. The notice at Talk:Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone does not contain that WARNING. I therefore believe 1RR is not in effect at Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. NedFausa (talk) 02:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@NedFausa: Got it, thank you. So ArbCom has authorized any non-involved admin to impose the sanction on any US politics article post-1932 broadly construed, but the sanction has not yet been imposed. I'm not saying that it should be imposed, or even that if it had already been that Mt.FijiBoiz should be blocked, I was just asking for my own information plus backing you up to try to show Mt.FijiBoiz the seriousness of edit warring. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 03:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

CHOP/CHAZ

Did you intentionally revert my edit on Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone? - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 19:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@KeithTyler:, no I didn't intend to revert your edit, I was simply adding the note about the CHOP name that was agreed upon on the article's name change. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 19:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Then when you submitted your edit you should have gotten an edit conflict warning which you should have resolved by merging the conflicting changes with your own, not blindly overridden it. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 21:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Identity theft

Impostor

Four hours after you announced that you were "retiring" editing on Wikipedia as of today, June 16, 2020, an impostor has edited Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone under your username at 01:01, 17 June 2020. I urge you to notify the appropriate authorities. NedFausa (talk) 01:50, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@NedFausa: hahaha. Today's my last day editing, the retirement is effective tomorrow. Thank you for all help on the CHAZ/CHOP page. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 01:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps review Wikipedia:Don't be high-maintenance § Frequent threats to leave. The way you're approaching retirement can be seen as disruptive... Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 02:36, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you KajenCAT for your help. All the best. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 01:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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