User talk:Mrsecurity39 392

On the Pannonian Avars I added that they're a "Mongolic people" because it's commonly assumed they have links to the former Xianbei elite, who fled west, who are thought to have been Mongolic, quoting what's said in the article is obviously more correct though. I thought I could atleast generalize the sentence and change it from "Mongolian people" to "Mongolic people". Please don't shoot the messenger :)

Can't read?[edit]

Have you read, or can you not read Dybo & the article Luandi's talk page? Can you read Chinese source materials? Erminwin (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't about not being able to read Chinese source materials (and yes I've read her study fully) WHEN THERE ARE NO CHINESE SOURCE MATERIALS in Anno Dybo her source RELATED to THE LUANDI as it is a SOURCE ON TURKIC RECONSTRUCTION, Where's you claim her source supposedly claim the name for the luandi to come from an Iranic language (no such thing is present in her study) which frankly has nothing to do with the reality of her study but everything to do with the COI and political POV you're trying to push as her study has nothing to do with the Xiongnu and luandi but everything to do with AGAIN Turkic Reconstruction as for page 6-9 explains (and for that matter every page in her study) mentions nothing on the issue of Xiongnu and Xiongnu tribes as it's a study on TURKIC Reconstruction with no mention on the Xiongnu whatsoever let alone on a Xiongnu tribe like the Luandi. Seems I have to explain this in detail yet again. Keep up the malicious editing and I will be reporting you. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 12:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WHEN THERE ARE NO CHINESE SOURCE MATERIALS in Anno Dybo
. Dybo mentions these Chinese sources: "Shi zi [sic]" aka Shiji (史記) aka Records of the Grand Historian, "Han shu" (漢書) aka Book of Han (on page numbered 8, pdf's 2nd page & page numbered 9, pdf's 3rd page); "Zin shu" aka Jinshu (晉書) aka Book of Jin and "Wei shu" (魏書) aka Book of Wei ((on page numbered 8, pdf's 2nd page)
Where's you claim her source supposedly claim the name for the luandi to come from an Iranic language (no such thing is present in her study)
It's clearly this on the page numbered 9 (which is the third page) of the pdf (archive copy):
In the same groups of Chinese sources we find the lexemes among “Hsiung-nu” words that can be traced as Iranian ones, borrowed from one of the Eastern Middle Iranian languages which was similar to a kind of archaic Khotanese Saka².
d) Iranian exotisms among “Hsiung-nu” Chinese transcriptions (only from Shi zi and Hanshu), dairy husbandry words and titles.
[...]
7. 攣鞮 *r(h)wan dē ‘royal clan of Hsiung-nu’ – Cf. Kh.Saka runde ‘kings’ (NPl of rre ‘king’ < *rwant-).
Chinese: 攣鞮; pinyin: Luándī is indeed found in Hanshu

自淳維以至頭曼千有餘歲，時大時小，別散分離，尚矣，其世傳不可得而次（云）。然至冒頓，而匈奴最強大，盡服從北夷，而南與諸夏為敵國，其世信官號可得而記云。單于姓攣鞮氏。
For more than thousands of years from Chunwei to Touman, [the Xiongnu's multitudes] had been sometimes large and sometimes small as they had been scattered and divided; so their genealogies could not be gotten and listed in sequence. Then in Modun['s time], the Xiongnu were at the pinnacle of greatness and strength: the northern barbarians totally submitted [to the Xiongnu] and [Xiongnu became] a state rivalling the various Xia (aka Han Chinese) in the south. Therefore their genealogies, information, and official titles can be gotten and recorded. The Chanyu's surname is Luandi.
— Book of Han, Volume 94 - Account of the Xiongnu

Again, learn to read better. Erminwin (talk) 18:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're being intellectually dishonest and you're falsifying sources. No such thing is stated on page 9 you're clearly reading a different source therefore I'd advise you to use that source as a reference rather then Anno Dybo her study on Turkic Reconstruction that is unrelated to the Xiongnu and Luandi,that entire paragraph you gave me is useless as NO CHINESE SOURCE MATERIALS in her study is RELATED to LUANDI as I have stated, I don't know where you're fabricating this from since I'm reading the same page as you that I will once again quote.. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The phonetic peculiarities of Proto - Bulgar / Early Bulgar > Hungarian and Early Bulgar > Slavic adaptation : vowels . Proto - Turkic vowel length was relevant in Pro to - Bulgar and Danube Bulgar ; The Proto - Turkic diphthongue * ia has specific reflexes in Proto - Bulgar , Danube Bulgar , Volga Bulgar inscriptions and Chuvash ; The reflexes of * a and * e can be distinguished from reflexes of * a and * ä in ProtoBulgar , Danube Bulgar and Chuvash . [ Slavic adapted Danube Bulgar a ( < * a , Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The phonetic peculiarities of Proto - Bulgar / Early Bulgar > Hungarian and Early Bulgar > Slavic adaptation : vowels . Proto - Turkic vowel length was relevant in Pro to - Bulgar and Danube Bulgar ; The Proto - Turkic diphthongue * ia has specific reflexes in Proto - Bulgar , Danube Bulgar , Volga Bulgar inscriptions and Chuvash ; The reflexes of * a and * e can be distinguished from reflexes of * a and * ä in ProtoBulgar , Danube Bulgar and Chuvash . [ Slavic adapted Danube Bulgar a ( < * a , Thus , during the period under study , Slavic did not lose the difference in quantity of * a [ a ] < PIE ā , * ō and * o [ 0 ] < PIE * ă , * ŏ ] . Consequently , all early contact data reaffirm the " Altaic - oriented " reconstruction of Proto Turkic . OUig . - Old Uigur PA Proto Altaic Abbreviations CT - Common Turkic LOCH- Late Old Chinese MChin Middle Chinese MIran . -MIr . - Middle Iranian MMo - Middle Mongolian NMo - Northern Mongolian OCH - Old Chinese OInd . - Old Indian OT - Old Turkic

If you want to continue to be intellectually dishonest and fabricate sources then here is the link to the study for anyone interested.

https://kpfu.ru/portal/docs Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're being intellectually dishonest and you're falsifying sources. No such thing is stated on page 9 you're clearly reading a different source [...] I don't know where you're fabricating this from since I'm reading the same page as you

.

I wrote:

on the page numbered 9 (which is the third page) of the pdf (archive copy)

The third page (page 3/11) of the 11-page pdf / pdf which has 11 pages (archive copy) is numbered / marked with number "9" at the bottom center of the page, not numbered "3" / marked with number "3". The said pdf's first page (i.e. 1/11) is numbered 7, 2nd page (i.e. 2/11) is numbered 8, 3rd page (3/11) is numbered 9, and so on until the 11th page (i.e. 11/11) which is numbered 17. Each of these numbers 7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 is clearly printed in the bottom-center of each of these pages 1/11, 2/11, 3/11, 4/11, 5/11, 6/11, 7/11, 8/11, 9/11, 10/11, and 11/11, respectively.

Have you been overestimating your abilities, especially proficiency in English?

Also when you wrote Talk:Luandi:

Frankly I see nothing there on the issue of the luandi the way you quoted it there to be, word for word. So either we're not reading the same study or something isn't right.
https://kpfu.ru/portal/docs [...]
I'll hear it from the other 2 what they'll find on the issue of the "luandi" in Anno Dybo her book cause frankly I've read it all and it's nowwhere to be found let alone on page 9 that I have quoted the source to the study is provided below so anyone can have a read themselves. I'll wait another day or so otherwise I'll have to revise the article back.. Since well the stated source says nothing on the Luandi.. At all. So unless one of you can point out what exact page (which isn't page 9) it does state so and so, I'll have to revise it again.

You revealed your ignorance. Luandi is the pinyin transcription (albeit without the tone-marks) of 攣鞮, which again, appears on page 9, i.e. the 3rd page (page 3/11) of the 11-page pdf / pdf which has 11 pages (archive copy). Pinyin transcription of 攣鞮 with tone-marks is Luándī.

Have some introspection and blame your own ignorance and incompetency! Erminwin (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Once again being dishonest, and continuing on to act in a way that justifies your previous edit warring backed up with non existent data, it doesn't get any worse with you does it? You've quite made it clear your only purpose is to push w certain POV here (your own) with the malicious prior edits you've made, luckily this coversation will remain here for all to read. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 18:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What a bad-faith-acting troll are. Instead of simply admitting you were wrong (after you copied & pasted information the 9th page, which is numbered "15", NOT numbered "9" of 11-page pdf / pdf which has 11 pages (archive copy, whose 1st,2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, & 11th pages are numbered "7", "8", "9", "10", "11", "12", "13", "14", "15", "16", "17", respectively); when you should have copied & pasted information found on the pdf's 3rd page, which is numbered "9", NOT numbered "3") you double-down on psychologically projecting, frivolously accusing, and malicious lying.Erminwin (talk) 03:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My conversation with you has ended, since you keep on lying and being intellectually dishonest and continuing to act in a way that justifies your previous edit warring which is backed up by non existent data. As much as you're repeating the same thing that won't change the reality of your bad faith editing to push your POV (which again is not backed up by sources), have a good day. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 14:13, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I appreciate you telling me. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 13:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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You might be right, however for the other user to state that I was lying about the content of the sources rubbed me the wrong way and I told the user he can go and check for himself. I should have refrained from calling him dishonest and stooping below my level. Mrsecurity39 392 (talk) 01:33, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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