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Keep your edit summaries civil

Over at Gravity (2013 film) you posted an edit with the following summary: "tracking a chronic plot bloater, this one mostly not their "efforts", trimmed version from apr 2018"

Please read up on WP:ESDONTS. Please don't make unsubstantiated insinuations. Please don't call other editors names. Please don't "track" the work of other editors.

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  • CapnZapp, there is nothing wrong with tracking the work of an editor who flaunts our guidelines and produces sub-standard work. Kindly do not patronize this editor. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
    • I know nothing about the backstory. I just saw a demeaning comment and notified the culprit about it. CapnZapp (talk) 21:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
      • I did not see a demeaning comment, and if you are going to come here and leave such a message, it behooves you to look into the background. I note that you didn't address the "don't track" comment, but hey. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
        • You might be desensitized, but I'm not. Please don't tell me what I can or can't find demeaning. Your argument, that a message shan't be judged by its cover, and that nobody gets to react without a full investigation, is unsupportable. How about you take some time to self-reflect, User:Drmies? Anyway, as you can see below, case is resolved. Bye CapnZapp (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
          • I may be desensitized, but I try not to be as patronizing as you are. Drmies (talk) 17:34, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I apologize if the quotes lent an air of snark. That was not my intent; I was shooting for brevity so that other editors who saw my edits would know when and where this particular editor, who as you can see from the related conversation directly above , has been a problem since at least 2014, was the source of a particular problem in the related articles (no reason to get them blames for bloat they weren't the source of when this inevitably goes to admin).
THat said, I'm very confused about everything else. I see nothing as the don'ts list about not tracking a problem editor; that's actually counterintuitive to a lot of types of patrolling one can do around here (recent changes, pending revisions, etc.). I used the wikiblame tool, as I have for years for this sort of thing; what is the point of that tool if not to find persistent problems and the folks who cause them? Which brings me to unsubtantiated...again, I"m very confused. This is not unsubstantiated. It's right there in the edit histories and on their talk page. This editor has at least a six year history of repeating the same kind of problem edits and not responding to communication on the topic. As I'm around regularly right now for the first time in a long while, I can't speak to why they weren't dealt with via the appropriate noticeboard. I only know that they weren't and their efforts have mostly been unchecked. SO I'm going to keep on finding what I can of theirs that is within my capabilities to fix at the moment, and do so. Millahnna (talk) 21:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
There's no reason to publicly broadcast that you're on clean-up duty, especially since as you yourself said, the article wasn't the other editor's work. Snark doesn't help - it's just uncivil. Thank you for your apology. CapnZapp (talk) 21:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
THe public announcements are pretty common, though. Is it a bad habbit I've picked up from other editors without realizing it goes against a policy somewhere? Because "reverting known sock", "reverting chronic overlinker", "reverting known spammer", etc. are all pretty common to see in streaks if someone finds a huge list of issues from one source on multiple articles. I'm not trying to speak in an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS kind of way here. I'm genuinely wondering if this is something that I've seen so much that I didn't realize it was actually discouraged on a guideline page I haven't stumbled across yet. Millahnna (talk) 21:34, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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Plot bloating

You're talking about Nashwalker, aren't you. How bad is it? Drmies (talk) 02:56, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

You betcha. CHeck my recent contribs. Everything I've touched since the first edit summary where I say all one person or chronic plot bloater is all them; I"m still working through his entire contrib list. On John Q specifically I scrolled back far enough to see that I reverted him in 2014. THen I found a series of edits from him on that film last year and two or three prior where he just dumped another couple thousand characters in there. Looks like they show up like once a year or so and make rounds to all of their favorites and add more detail, even if the detail they previously added is still there. If that makes any sense.
Also hiya and cyberhugs and stuff. Millahnna (talk) 03:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I saw your John Q edit, and then the other one. I had a quick look at the editor's contributions; maybe I should look again. Drmies (talk) 03:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I think I used to have them bookmarked in my problem editors file (includes vandals, edit war peeps, people who add "main antagonist of the film" to everything, and that ip editor who is obsessed with specific gun models). I saw some recent small edits of theirs and didn't think anything of it until I started tracking this stuff. It's because I almost alwayslook for a trimmed down plot in article histories when I'm bloat hunting; even if it still isn't written well, it's usally easier to edit into something workable. SO I always end up spotting this stuff when I'm back around regularly for a little while. Millahnna (talk) 03:10, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I saw you left them a note; I did as well. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't recall if you work on TV articles as well but for the record, I'm not touching those. I'll mess up the table tags. ANd they have a bunch of them in their contrib history. Millahnna (talk) 03:21, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll make this simple. I feel that film plots should be as detailed as possible, in regards to what goes on. I have seen plenty of other film pages that have plot far beyond the 400-700 limit and no one has had any problems with them. Nashwalker (talk) 20:44, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

  • My reply is on Drmies's talk page since you dropped a similar note there too. THanks for replying to communication on this, this time. Millahnna (talk) 21:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

The Space Between Us (film)

Are you kidding me? You did all that hard work fixing that massively bloated plot synopsis - and you give me a thank you for fixing one little typo? You are too kind!! Still, it is much appreciated (both the cleanup and the thank you). Jmg38 (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate anyone who catches my typos. I leave behind enough of them.
I need to go back for another pass. Passive phrasing phrasing in the middle makes it a slog to read right now. I come and go so I'll get it eventually. Millahnna (talk) 20:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

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