User talk:Marudubshinki/Archive 10

Lumpy's stuffed bantha

To be honest with you, I really don't know what the hell I wasthinking when I put that pagfe up. I put the thing up on the star warswiki and they were adding to it of all things. So I, and I don't knowwhy, wondered if it might be allowed here. And, for some strangereason no one found it. I'm sorry for even adding it. Totally belongsonly at the star wars wiki. I'm going to add my vote to delete it aswell. It is pretty stupid for the purposes of this website. I'll keepthose types at the star wars wiki from now on. It was late at night,and well, I wasn't thinking. TheWookieepedian 00:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Decent enough excuse. I forgive you this time, but if you do it againand add Jaina Solo's Panties or something, well, I can't promisewhat I will or won't do... And were the Wookipedia people reallyadding to it? 0.o --Maru(talk) 03:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Dude, that's so a violation of WP:BEANS. It took all thewillpower I have not to create that article.--chris.lawson 04:45,4 October 2005 (UTC)

Curses! My temptation failed. And it was such a good one too.--Maru (talk)04:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

At least you did the right thing and un-redded the link. ;)--chris.lawson 04:55,4 October 2005 (UTC)

I knew it was only a matter of time before you gave in, so I madea redirect and beat you to it. My work here is done.--Maru (talk)04:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza Block (Is that an oxymoron)?

Well, congrats, and welcome to the club! --<fontcolor="#006666">Bratsche^{<fontcolor="#FF6600">talk | <fontcolor="#339900">Esperanza} 12:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. And it would appear not to be in this case!--Maru (talk)13:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Question from my RfA

Maru-- I am going to answer your question here instead of on my RfApage, because that page is getting fairly long, and This will onlyincrease that problem. I guess I should probably leave a link therethough. Okay, here goes. Information is free. When Carnegie was makingall his money, he insisted on giving a lot of it to establish freelibraries, so that everyone in every situation could have a chance atlearning. I feel Wikipedia is doing the same thing today. The ideathat everyone can contribute something is amazing. Some people'sspecializations around here are astounding. The idea of free software,etc. is something fairly new to me. I only stumbled across it a fewyears ago. I am not a "computer person" per se, but I love the ideathat something can actually get done in a freeware environment. Thiswiki is one of the pinnacle acheivements of the Internet, I feel.People that actually want to spend their time fighting vandals,fixing articles, and creating something bigger than themselves, allwithout compensation. Simply amazing. The idea of free speech isimportant to me. I have done several lenghty research papers on thesubject and could go on for hours writing about it, but I willsummarise it as this: I have no problem with free speech. Everyone hasthe right to be heard, and don't try and stifle what may need tobe heard. "Free speech zones" are a crock. But while I am a proponentof free speech, I do think we need to be wary somewhat. I thinksome people have taken political correctness to far, and have startedto repress free speech. I do not think that children should beexposed to pornography or extreme violence. Sorry, I am blabberingnow. But to the point, the freedom of speech is how we are able tokeep people in power in check. And as to your question, I do not feelthis has much to do with my political leanings, but rather more withmy principles and ideas. I hope I have answered your question, andsorry for such a long answer. --<fontcolor="purple">Lord Vold<fontcolor="green">e<fontcolor="purple">mort ^{(Dark Mark)|My RfA} 18:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

No no, a lengthy answer is what I was hoping for: it makes itdifficult for you to give a disingenuous answer, and delves deeperanyways. And I disagree- I think this is all very political. Goodpolitics is indistinguishable from science and philosophy and ideasand such, I feel: we've just forgotten. --Maru(talk) 18:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I think that science, philosophy and the like all have a rolein politics, but do not define it. People all the time separate theirideas and their politics (Blind support for a party, etc.). Andtoday's "politics" are just awful. Not many people think muchanymore. Well, at least that's what I think. --LordVold<fontcolor="green">e<fontcolor="purple">mort ^{(Dark Mark)|My RfA} 18:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

What I meant was more along the lines of this: politics and scienceshould not really be distinct; the experimental method shouldapply to both equally. If policies fail to do what is promised, thenthat political faction should be discarded, and newpolicies/hypotheses proposed. It should be like philosophy in thatarguments are logically sound, that they do not use logical fallaciesand propaganda techniques, that their platform is consistent etc. --Maru (talk)19:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

RFA standards

Good to know :). I'm compiling a list of users with similar votingtendencies. Right now I'm thinking a guild is the way to go, with oneuser voting in opposition for several guild members if the candidatedoes not meet their criteria. Other users can then change, or leavetheir vote if there are extenuating circumstances.freestylefrappe 18:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it is a good precedent to set that there can be someeditor voting for other editors. Each editor may have the samestandards, but should be required to cast their own vote of support oroppose. I know I'm butting in here, but I think what you're doingcould lead to a dangerous place. --<fontcolor="purple">Lord Vold<fontcolor="green">e<fontcolor="purple">mort ^{(Dark Mark)|My RfA} 18:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking it would go like this: that thisguild/cabal/group would essentially bring together voters who havesimilar standards; then a few members could keep an eye on RfA. Whensomething distasteful is going down (ie a good qualified RfA in dangerof failing, or a bad RfA in danger of succeeding), those few would runback and alert the others that they might want to look at this. Proxyvoting,... well, I don't trust any other user that much.--Maru (talk)19:05, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I have no problem if there is a group that can alert eachother to happenings, but my concern was with the proxy voting.--LordVold<fontcolor="green">e<fontcolor="purple">mort ^{(Dark Mark)|My RfA} 19:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Darth Traya

I thought we already concluded that the three Sith Lords in KotORII were just that, and not Dark Lords of the Sith?Nufy8 20:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Oops. I'll go fix that. --Maru(talk) 20:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. And I'm not on IRC anymore because I have lost interest withit. --Nufy8 20:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Lost... interest... in IRC? /me's head asplodes. Well, I'msticking around on it. Good for cabalism and getting admin advicequickly. --Maru(talk) 20:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Format changes to Talk:Eliezer Yudkowsky

Hi. I see you keep changing the formatting of my comments on thispage. Sometimes it might be a mistake not to increase the depth of thenesting, true, but in the places you changed it it was not. My lastcomment, for example, was not a reply to Yudkowsky's last comment, butto the one prior to that, to which Yudkowsky's last comment was anaddendum. Both my last comment and Yudkowsky's last should thereforebe at the same level of depth. Miai 00:35, 5 October2005 (UTC)

Oh. /looks again. Well, if you say so...--Maru (talk)00:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, you've been here longer than I have, so if there's somespecial Wikipedia rule for how conversations on talk pages should beformatted that I'm unaware of, I'd be happy if you would explain it tome. I'm just following normal net conventions for how threadedconversations should be formatted. Miai 00:41, 5 October2005 (UTC)

For talk pages the standards generally are: the headers have aspace between the double equal signs and the header name itself(unlike in an article) and there is one line between the header andthe message. The message is generally not broken up by spaces, andalways one indentation below the comment it is replying to if any. They are always signed, and to sign properly you go like this:--~~~~. So they look like so:--Maru (talk)00:50, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Your Durin Chart

Hey Maru, it's all set, although i've put your edit totals into twocharts -- it's a different graphical story for users with massiveamounts of edits. Where would you like it? I think i'm going to make asubpage anyway, so I can leave a copy here on your talk page, but Isaw it looked very large so you could just see it there. I'll put alink to the subpage on my userpage, which should be up by the end ofthe day. --Karmafist 16:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Just put it on a sub page, I'll link to it from my user page in thesame section as my RfA and Kate's Tool are linked(User:Marudubshinki/Edits seems appropriate.) BTW: I'm afraid thechart is already outdated; I'm up to 5346 edits now.--Maru (talk)16:05, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

WP:CP

Hi, you've reported copyright infringements to WP:CP in the lastweek, a new measure was recently passed to allow the speedy deltion ofnew pages that are cut and paste copyvios. Please follow theseinstructions if you come across this type of copyvio. Thanks.--nixie 00:03, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Blatant copyright infringements may now be"speedied" If an article and all its revisions are unquestionably copiedfrom the website of a commercial content provider and there is noassertion of permission, ownership or fair use and none seems likely,and the article is less than 48 hours old, it may be speedily deleted.See CSD A8 forfull conditions. After notifying the uploading editor by using wording similar to: {{nothanks-sd|pg=pagename|url=url of source}} -- ~~~~ Blank the page and replace the text with {{db-copyvio|url=url ofsource}} to the article in question, leaving the content visible. Anadministrator will examine the articleand decide whether to speedily delete it or not.

Hey

Thanks for your response. --ShelburneKismaayo 22:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

'Tis I who should be thanking you. The existence of administratorssuch as Redwolf and I are predicated on three things (well, one thing,keeping Wikipedia healthy, but in practice it breaks down to twothings): one, using our powers to close out paperwork, like deletingpages and finishing votes or AfDs. Two, fighting vandals, settingexampls that way, and blocking them when the vandals should beblocked. And three, helping the less experienced.--Maru (talk)23:03, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Redirecting?

Hi! Thanks for telling me about Babel, I'd been wondering. There's something I need to ask you about. Searching for soccerand association football produces the same result. How do I dothat for an article I create? Let's say I want searches for 'abc' and'abcd' to target the same article. Thank you. --AabhaR 07:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

So, you want to know how to make redirects. That's actually prettyeasy. Ok, suppose you want you want FOOBARBAZ to redirect toMetasyntactic variable? Well, in this hypothetical example, thelink is in a page, so you could just click on it right? When you do,it opens up an empty page for you to edit. Then, in this case, youwould insert #REDIRECT[[Metasyntactic variable]], andsave. And now anyone who visits FOOBARBAZ or clicks on it will swiftlybe taken to Metasyntactic variable instead. This also works with the"go" button, if there is no page by the name of what you are lookingfor (it will offer a link to create the page). And that's all thereis to it. BTW, if you are creating a genuinely new article, not justa redirect, it is a very good idea to go through all variations ofcaptilization and possible spelling errors, and make sure there is aredirect to the real article for each. --Maru(talk) 17:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! That was a great help!:) Aabha R12:54, 9 October 2005 (UTC)