User talk:Longwayround/Mea culpa
I'm not perfect. This is an archive of things for me to learn from.
Caroline Righton[edit]
Re your note and reinsertion of the blogosphere incident on the caroline Righton article:
- The incident is well referenced within the Lib Dem Voice article. It belongs in this article. Longwayround (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Lib Dem Voice is hardly a NPOV reference. The only thing the Lib Dem Voice article references is other Lib Dem bloggers! Are there any main media references? A newspaper or similar publication? The only stuff I can find is still in the blogosphere, and could (would?) seem to the neutral like a spat between political bloggers? Remember, we are heading into a UK election, so an accurate and well ref'd article is paramount. I would hence request that we find a decent newspaperor other hard ref, over a reversion war. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 18:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Flagicons[edit]
You might want to read the extensive discussion on the talk page there. Flagicons in sporting infoboxes are specifically not prohibited. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:37, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit warring at List of tallest residential buildings in the world[edit]
Please see the result of WP:AN3#User:Longwayround reported by User:Nabil rais2008 (Result: Both warned) which contains a warning for you. Any further revert by either party may lead to a block. Use the steps of WP:Dispute resolution. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Ignoring the result of the 3RR case?[edit]
Please clarify how this edit is acceptable given my ban on either of you reverting the article. Your edit removes 149 bytes from the article, so I'm assuming it is a revert. Please explain either (a) how you got consensus for this change, or (b) why it is not a revert. If you guys will not behave in a grown-up fashion, blocks or full protection may be needed. EdJohnston (talk) 20:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly. You will note that I have simply corrected the grammar of the relevant paragraph, flagged the facts which are under discussion (I am trying to build consensus) and moved a references. If that is seen to be a revert then I apologise unreservedly. Longwayround (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Rapid removal of all warnings and discussion from your talk page does not suggest much interest in negotiation. Do you intend to consult anyone besides yourself? Do you plan to notify a WikiProject? Or request a WP:Third opinion? EdJohnston (talk) 20:46, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly. You will note that I have simply corrected the grammar of the relevant paragraph, flagged the facts which are under discussion (I am trying to build consensus) and moved a references. If that is seen to be a revert then I apologise unreservedly. Longwayround (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- I proposed seeking a Third opinion on 9 December Talk:List_of_tallest_residential_buildings_in_the_world#Third_opinion. I have been negotiating on the talk page since 1 December [1] and moved the warning to the /Mea_culpa page to show that I had read it and that I accepted it. Would you like me to revert this edit ? Longwayround (talk) 20:56, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Just to add, I sought the Third opinion yesterday [2]. I do not doubt that I should have done so before getting involved in the edit war. Also, the reason for moving comments from Nabil rais 2008 from the talk page was (as I stated on his talk page [3]) that we were more likely to get consensus and a third opinion by discussing the matter at Talk:List of tallest residential buildings in the world Longwayround (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for requesting a third opinion. If an issue is important enough to debate at WP:AN3, it is probably important enough for you to keep related discussion visible on your own talk page until the issue has been resolved. Oftentimes things end up at AN3 because the involved editors refuse to have a real discussion. If you hide all posts immediately on your own talk page, it suggests you don't actually want a discussion. Since you both have some knowledge, it is puzzling why you are disagreeing so sharply. It may be that one of you is being very unreasonable but we can't tell so far. A full-length discussion in which both of you explained your positions would be educational. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I hadn't thought the discussion on here was helpful at all but it's in the archives and I shall be moving this discussion (eventually, once it's fizzled out) to Mea Culpa as a salutary lesson. I, too, am puzzled about the disagreement. I suspect part of it may be cultural or linguistic as some of Nabil rais 2008's edits suggest that English is not his first language. I don't think he's unreasonable and I certainly hope I'm not! Longwayround (talk) 21:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for requesting a third opinion. If an issue is important enough to debate at WP:AN3, it is probably important enough for you to keep related discussion visible on your own talk page until the issue has been resolved. Oftentimes things end up at AN3 because the involved editors refuse to have a real discussion. If you hide all posts immediately on your own talk page, it suggests you don't actually want a discussion. Since you both have some knowledge, it is puzzling why you are disagreeing so sharply. It may be that one of you is being very unreasonable but we can't tell so far. A full-length discussion in which both of you explained your positions would be educational. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Just to add, I sought the Third opinion yesterday [2]. I do not doubt that I should have done so before getting involved in the edit war. Also, the reason for moving comments from Nabil rais 2008 from the talk page was (as I stated on his talk page [3]) that we were more likely to get consensus and a third opinion by discussing the matter at Talk:List of tallest residential buildings in the world Longwayround (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2011 (UTC)