User talk:Livinlife133

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A-Class

There are two ways to properly assess an article for A-Class status. For projects like WP:MILHIST or WP:HWY/WP:USRD, there is an A-Class Review process that the articles have to pass. If a project doesn't have an ACR process, then two editors have to jointly review the article on its talk page and agree that it meets the assessment criteria.

Because your new project doesn't have an ACR process yet, and because you didn't complete a joint review with someone else, I've re-assessed all articles you tagged as A-Class. In one case, the article was already a Featured Article, so it needed to be bumped to FA-Class. In another, the article was a Good Article, so it needed to be set as GA-Class, but the rest followed the assessments set by other projects for consistency. Imzadi 1979 → 18:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Stub-sorting templates

There's also a process for creating and maintaining stub-sorting templates. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals before continuing. Imzadi 1979 → 18:59, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Your enthusiasm

It appears that you have a great deal of enthusiasm for editing Wikipedia. That's great!

However, I would suggest that you work on editing articles first. Most new WikiProjects fail around here. Yes, most. Basically, you should have a group of interested editors come together first, and then you create the project around that group. If you create the project first, there's no guarantee other editors will show up, especially for a niche topic. (State-level WikiProjects are even going inactive, so how can you be sure that one on a smaller geographic area will succeed?) If this new project turns out like so many others, now we have this whole infrastructure of templates and assessments that will end up getting dismantled in the future.

This is not a commentary on the historical importance of the region, but a reflection of the reality of how things work around here. So in short, put the project on pause. Edit articles. Find other interested editors, and if then you have an enthusiastic group, then proceed with a project. Imzadi 1979 → 19:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979: Thank you for your suggestions, which have helped me navigate through WikiProject setup. I am quite new to WikiProjects (and Wikipedia editing). However, I do have questions.

1. A-Class reviews: At WP:A class, as well as your message, the creators allow for individual WikiProjects to set their own criteria when it comes to classifying articles. I've since set criteria for the BV project allowing for reviwers to set classes at their own discretion (I'm not trying to evade any rules here, this is just for user clarity and due to the low number of participants). Is what I've done allowed?
2. Stub notice: These templates need to be approved? This sounds surprising, as it is one line of text. Livinlife133 (talk) 05:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

1. Yes, there are minimum requirements to award A-Class assessments. The basic method is to have one editor nominate an article, and then two uninvolved editors evaluate it. A project can set up an ACR process, but that process is going to be more involved than the basic method. Either way, a single editor cannot award A-Class to an article by himself.
2. There is a project devoted to maintaining the stub-sorting infrastructure, and yes, those templates are approved through it. It's not just "one line of text" as the templates are supposed to also categorize articles into stub-sorting categories, which is the actual purpose. For this point, please note that "stub" and "Stub-Class" are separate, but related, concepts.

As a side note, technically new WikiProjects should get approval. You proposed it and created it before it was approved. That's another reason why I counsel you to pause the project and start editing. You've only had your account for a few days, and it seems like you're trying to run before you can walk. Imzadi 1979 → 05:28, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Blackstone Valley stub

Template:Blackstone Valley stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Imzadi 1979 → 05:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Stop, please

I urge you to immediately stop what you're doing.

You've had an account for four days. That's not a long time to try to learn how the community works.

Your 10th edit was to create a brand new WikiProject. That's an overly ambitious task to take on. The proposal for the project hasn't even been approved yet. If it isn't, the project could be nominated for deletion.

You don't need a WikiProject to improve articles. Instead, you need to do research, write content, take photographs and put all of that into articles. At the end of the day, Wikipedia is about improving the articles. Yes, projects help, but a project for a single editor is a waste of storage space on the servers.

For the time being, I've moved the project to your user space. Please play with it there. Until you have a group of interested editors and approval for the project, don't move it back or recreate it. Imzadi 1979 → 05:33, 31 August 2020 (UTC)