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Thank you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! I ran out of time to fix the Task Force page, and was going to do it when I saw it all neat, tidy, and perfect! Thanks again! ~ Bella Swan^? 17:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

It looks great. Thanks again! ~ Bella Swan^? 17:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I was working on using this, and so I created a new template TTF to use it. Is it not worth it? ~ Bella Swan^? 17:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright, well if I create all the category articles, all I need to do is place each of them in Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments for the bot to work, so I might as well do so. Do I need to name the categories 'Cat:A-class Twilight task force articles' or can I shorten it to 'Cat:A-class Twilight articles'? ~ Bella Swan^? 17:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for your help. ~ Bella Swan^? 17:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm

Could there be a second bug in the WP:NOVELS template? See Template_talk:NovelsWikiProject#New_task_force_to_add... (thought that you might want to know. =]) Cheers! —the_ed17— 02:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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Fram copyvio discussion

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re: monobook

Yes, I finally got it working. Thanks! María (habla conmigo) 16:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 13:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Vengeance (novel)

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Steppenwolf Picture

Contrary to your comments I don't think that the bad picture with the ugly looking old book in it conveys it's literary importance, I don't think it does anything for it. And, I notice you skipped our discussion on it that was in the Talk Page. I think the other title page is far more powerful, and conveys more a sense of the book, it looks better, and most importantly its a better image, I mean its been taken better. I find that aesthetics of an article are very important, and there's still actually nothing wrong with the other picture except that it comes from a later edition which is of no consequence. But, you'd rather stick with the old one for some unfathomable reason. Look, the only edit you've made in weeks was to cancel out what I did and that speaks loads. Still believe we should hold it to a vote. There's still no reason to go with a first edition just because its a first edition.--Robert Waalk (talk) 00:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• And you did the same to my other project, putting in a first edition cover simply because it was a first edition, despite the fact that my cover, (and I did search between numerous editions to find the one I wanted), more accurately displayed the feel and theme of the book while remaining an aesthetically attractive heading to an article. I think on Look Homeward, Angel, though, the other contributors will outvote you. I still say it is a stupid, pointless action.--Robert Waalk (talk) 00:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

You have a give away statement with your phrase here "my other project"! Nothing here belongs to anyone, this is a common arena. We need to get used to the co=operative nature of things and stick to established policies and guidelines. The matter of 1st edition covers has been there for at least three years and is recognised as the most significant reason to select one edition over another. Opinions about aesthetics would easily develop into editing wars with no good purpose. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 05:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Copied to General Forum. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 05:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Member in Focus

Just wondering if you would be interested in contributing to the November Novels Project newsletter for the new section ' In Focus ' ? If so it would be good if you could write on somethings like the goals and future of the Novels Project, how active you are now with the Project etc, anything that can introduce yourself and let new members know that you are the founder and what reasons you started the Novels Project and how we differ from Literature and Books Project etc. This is just a section so members can understand the Project better and get some idea of who our members are. Max of about 200 words and the article would be required by the end of October. Would be good to have you in this new feature, so let us know if your interested. Regards - Boylo (talk) 00:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you let me know as soon as possible if your interested in doing this as otherwise i will need to find someone else (which may be difficult at this late stage) ? The contribution is not needed till the end of the month. Thx - Boylo (talk) 00:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep thats perfect so i will put it in the next newsletter. I will take a break from wikipedia after this newsletter and retire for awhile as i wont have the time to be here, so will post that and hope someone else tales over the newsletter. Boylo (talk) 07:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

AAU reminder notice

A friendly reminder from the Adopt-a-User project =)

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• Notice delivery by xenobot 14:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• replied @ my talk. –xeno (talk) 14:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

re: Elections

Whoops. Thanks for the reminder! María (habla conmigo) 15:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment on coordinator's page.

"Seeing the interests of the_ed17 above it would be nice to co-ordinate with WP:MILHIST more and maybe get a joint military novel / short story literature task force on the cards." Hmm not a bad idea! There are a lot of military history novels...Tom Clancy comes to the forefront of my mind, with Dale Brown, Alistair MacLean, Stephen Coonts and Joseph Heller next in line..... [and we might get more interest in WP:NOVELS... :)] Anyway, cheers! —the_ed17— 15:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

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Another message. :) —the_ed17— 17:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if MILHIST would do a task force like this....."Note that the project generally covers only those depictions for which a discussion of historical accuracy or real military influence is applicable. A distinction is therefore made between fictionalized depictions of historical warfare and purely invented depictions of fictional warfare; topics sufficiently divorced from actual history that a discussion of actual military history would no longer be relevant to them—such as futuristic warfare in Star Wars—are not considered to be within the project's scope. However, songs and music with long military associations—for example, It's a long way to Tipperary and Lili Marleen—are within the project's scope." (WP:MILHIST#SCOPE) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 03:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Agreed I would see SF and alternate history as separate to the scope of this group. In other words fiction based on real wars, real conflicts albeit fictional accounts (with some invention). So I don't see we should have a problem. Military themed stories might be more tricky. Drama based and Sandhurst or West Point for example. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 07:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Steppenwolf (novel)

I am getting this image translated from german to english that is in commons [1]. It is in the process of being done now and have asked that it then be uploaded to commons. Where would you recommend this chart to be placed in the article ? - Boylo (talk) 11:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Translation is being done by Tirkfl if you need to advise him, as he may wish to upload it to article page himself. - Boylo (talk) 11:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Acknowledgment and Request

Thank you for your recent edits to the Chris Heimerdinger article and comments regarding the proposed merge, I think you may be correct - merging it is simply another way for the lazy like myself to get around the work necessary here.

On a side note, would you be so kind as to create an article titled Mildred L. Batchelder Award with a redirect from Batchelder Award? Beyond its notability the award is interesting in that it is conferred on the publisher for a single specified title. I intend to write the prose based mostly on this reference[2][3] and it's associated links. Thanks, if you can create that page for me.76.202.249.62 (talk) 18:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

why not write it yourself? I know nothing on the subject you should do it. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 18:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I intend to, I just don't have page creation rights. I asked you because you seem to have at least a passing interest in the general subject, "literature" - and because you were standing right there, so to speak, when I decided to add the subject. :) (I only need the page created, I will populate it...)76.202.249.62 (talk) 18:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow. This is a fast crowd. Sorry for putting that on you so totally, and thank you for your efforts - it was not my intention to leave you hanging, after a bit I thought you might not see it till later ... but most of all I believed it could sit there for a day while it was worked up ... so, so wrong! Wow. Minutes, and only measured in the single digits no less! Thank you again for your very neighborly assist - a truly positive act, very much an example of this projects ideals.76.202.249.62 (talk) 06:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Courtesy

Kevin, could you please use edit summaries when you make an edit? It's quite unhelpful not to, especially when reverting others. This change seems to introduce a factual inaccuracy - the artist's book is "by" the artist Dennis Ashbaugh; Gibson only contributed a poem which was embedded in it. As far as I am aware, Gibson has written no notable books which are not novels, so Category:Books by William Gibson, if Category:Novels by William Gibson is to remain, should be empty. the skomorokh 19:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad - at least on the edit summary - my hands going too fast for my brain. On the authorship all I can say is I read the lead first sentence that said "Agrippa (a book of the dead) is a work of art created by speculative fiction novelist William Gibson, artist Dennis Ashbaugh and publisher Kevin Begos Jr. in 1992.[1][2] ". If that needs clarifying so it should be if the "book" not by Gibson then who is "author". :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 20:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. I think I added the category to the article on a similar level of reading. After developing the article for GA, it's now apparent that Agrippa is an art project which incorporated an artists' book created by the artist which contained, among other things, disks with a poem by Gibson on it. The art project had other components besides the artist's book. See the content and additions section. So I would credit the artist Dennis Ashbaugh as the primary author of the actual book, and the sources credit Ashbuagh, Gibson and the publisher Begos as the creative forces behind the project. the skomorokh 20:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

If Gibson is not the "author" he shouldn't really be categised here at all, or at least as works. It is the poem that should be credited. So either a separate article for it or at least at category entry for Category:Poetry by William Gibson on this article which is more clearly not the attribution for the whole "book".  :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 20:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I was inclined to go for broad categorisation - categories which cover the book, the poem, the event and the whole project - I would have included Category:Artist's books by Dennis Ashbaugh and Category:Poems by William Gibson if those categories were otherwise populated. I'm not sure what the convention on this type of categorisation is - could you advise?

If the categories should strictly categorise the topic of the article - the project - then I would still argue for Category:Works by William Gibson, as Gibson is credited equally with Ashbaugh and Begos. By way of analogy, it would seem strange if The Difference Engine were removed from Category:Novels by William Gibson just because he is not the sole author of that work. Thoughts? the skomorokh 21:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Not and easy one, but "works" implies the whole is Gibsons, as does "books" (as you identified), "poetry" is accurate and should be spotted as not the "whole". On shared authorship, yes each author is normal identified. Unless is is a "collection" or "anthology". Here anthology is preferred with multiple authors and only the compiler is credited by category. The individual components are only credit when warranting separate articles. Does that help? :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 07:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

That seems clear, but applying what you say, it seems that you would recommend that the only Gibson category the article should be in is Category:Poetry of William Gibson. Creating a category for only one article (Gibson has not written and is unlikely to write any more poetry, AFAIK) seems like overcategorisation, which is usually solved by upmerging. So I would stand by Category:Works by William Gibson, despite its ambiguity. In any case, Category:Books by William Gibson ought to be empty - do you have any objection to its deletion? the skomorokh 15:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

No not at all - it is a complex example. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 07:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Mildred L. Batchelder Award

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CfD nomination of Category:Books by William Gibson

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Template: LucyMaudMontgomery

{{LucyMaudMontgomery}} Regarding your edit [4] – did you read Category:Author navigational boxes which says “Note: This category page should be empty. All entries should be recategorized under Category:Author templates”. Also, preceding the Category with a colon makes just a link to the category – the page don’t belong to the category. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 02:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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The Blue Afternoon

Hi. You restored material that was removed as a copyright violation indicating you didn't see it. The plot material is lifted verbatim from this New York Times article. The first through third paragraph of the plot introduction in The Blue Afternoon is a verbatim copy starting at parapgraph two of the New York Times article. The last paragraph is slightly modified in that the first part of the sentence from paragraph 5 of the NY Times article has been removed, but the remainder is identical.

It's a similar situation with the plot summary section. I've removed the material again. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

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Love you to death

Hi Kevin. I notice you restored this article after I've redirected it to Shadowland. I'm not sure why. Love you to death and Shadowland are only different names of the same book - only one book, so there should be only one article. This holds true for the sequels, all of which have an alternative name, too. Shadowland should be the main title for our Wikipedia article since it is the name that is listed on the author's official website. I'll restore the redirected version, if that's okay with you? :) Best, --PeaceNT (talk) 09:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Shadowland is the original name (ref), and definitely the more commonly-used title as well: more editions (including later ones) are published under this name, also considering the fact that this is how the book is known to an average reader (not a fan!) browsing Meg Cabot's website. About the talk page, I deleted that one. I think there's a bot or some admin with automatic tools that will search for talk pages of redirected articles and delete them anyway. It's not benificial to preserve talk pages of redirects because Wikipedia readers in general wouldn't find their way to the talk page of a redirect. :) Best, --PeaceNT (talk) 16:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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Tanizaki's shadows

Hi Kevin, I was wondering if you might have time to cast a technical eye over this article I've expanded: In Praise of Shadows. I have a copy of the 2001 edn, but no first edn and having trouble getting a clear shot of the cover. Julia Rossi (talk) 03:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

And PS, I'm confused about the isbn, should the later edition isbn go in or leave it out since it was published before isbns? tx, Julia 03:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Looking good, fine start to the out of universe material (real world) for the title and yes the ISBN would be left as NA as ISBNs were not used then. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 07:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much Kevin, your input is so much appreciated. Best, Julia Rossi (talk) 08:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

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A. E. Southon: On Eagle's Wing

Howdy! My name is Ákos and interest a novel A. E. Southon: On Eagle's Wing. Can you help me, who's Southon and his novel? Doncsecz (talk) 14:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hello and thank you for fixing the book title in my subpage. I am reading the book in French and so I was unaware of its official English title. LovesMacs (talk) 15:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Category:Crime novels

Hi, Kevin,

The definition of category in the form you've reverted it to

• 1) clearly violates WP:NPOV
• 2) at odds with the content of WP pages crime fiction and mystery fiction
• 3) is not supported by standard reference works on the subject (to name just a few: The Cambridge Companion to Crime Fiction, Detective Fiction (Cultural History of Literature) by Rzepka, Crime Fiction, 1800-2000: Detection, Death, Diversity by Knight, Crime Fiction: A Comprehensive Bibliography by Hubin)

Mystery fiction is NOT an umbrella term for detective fiction and whodunits as the current definition tries to assert.

In fact, the current division of novels into Category:Crime novels, Category:Mystery novels and Category:Detective novels is extremely questionable. That, of course, should be discussed at length at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Crime task force, but my humble edit was just to correct what, I believe, is a very misleading category description. Let me know what you think.

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Category reversion

Hi Kevin, I saw that you reverted my changes to Category:Poetry by Robert Browning with the broad comment "non standard". The edit consisted of three main changes: a category specialisation from c:British poems to c:English poetry, an alphabetical sorting of the categories, and the use of DEFAULTSORT to match the majority of sort-text (and an explicit PAGENAME for the exception). As this page shows you being "offline" and it seems unlikely that you considered all three changes to be "non standard", I've redone the edit on the assumption that you'll provide further feedback and make a more refined change. TIA --Zigger «º» 00:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

stub categories

Hi. thanks for your help today with adding categories to category: stub parent categories. the category is currently being discussed and proposed for deletion. could you please go over to the deletion entry, and provide some help and input? thanks. i really appreciate it. the category is being proposed for deletion at:

Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion#Cat:Stub_parent_categories.

also, there is also a significant discussion taking place at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Stub_sorting#parent_categories. please feel free to provide some input. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 14:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

hi. sorry to bother you again, but there is a proposal at the deletion discussion to limit the categories to only the most top-level of categories, and nothing more lower-down. this would effectively exclude the fiction-related stubs category which you added there today. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

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Elegance novel pic

Hi Kevinalewis, I need your help. It's about the book cover image at The Elegance of the Hedgehog, it has been used as default (large) and reduced (200px) and I was wondering which is the wiki novel style. I don't quite follow Skomorokh's reason for why it's large again (and on my browser looks outsize compared with the article text layout), but before I raise this at the talk page, I'd like to know what's involved in sizing the cover for a novels page.(Which may result in me having no business to raise it at all.)

By the way, it's currently a GA candidate. Thanks, Julia Rossi (talk) 08:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much – I'll take it up at the talk page and hopefully it will go back to normal but it was quickly reverted so I hope it's not a big issue there. Julia Rossi (talk) 10:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

OOps, sorry I just found you there. Thank you for support because your knowledge about consistency makes more sense. Julia Rossi (talk) 10:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, too, for helping us. --Efe (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello Kevin. I asked you before if you could include edit summaries explaining your actions when you make an edit. You undid an edit of mine here without explanation, when I had given a policy-based reason in my edit summary. I understand not wanting to have to explain basic maintenance tasks in the template space or something, but when you are reverting a good faith edit of another user, it really is antagonising, frankly. Regards, the skomorokh 11:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

La Terre

I'm still working on it. If you could discuss on the talk page first. I have a plan and it will take some time. Thanks. Fothergill Volkensniff IV (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

The Loser (novel)

Hi. Re your edits to this article, are you really convinced that unreferenced phrases such as "so great is the impact of Gould's genius on the other two that, even as it nourishes them, it destroys them: they realize that Gould represents an artistic ideal to which they cannot hope to aspire." really fall under WP guidelines ? CultureDrone (talk) 13:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Image help !

Kevin, Any idea what I should do about Image:Resurrection.jpg ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I have made some modifications to the FUR and removed the tag - not quite sure what it was there for. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 18:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

It is quite simple actually. The books is published in 1899, therefore it should be quite easy to get a public domain image of the book. There is no need for a non-free content image, hence it is replaceable non-free content. Garion96 (talk) 19:02, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I also tagged Image:LeoTolstoy AnnaKarenina.jpg for the same reason. Garion96 (talk) 20:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The Complete Fairy Tales of Hermann Hesse

Hi, I saw you were a member of Wikipedia:NOVSS, and as such I was wondering how I could help expand the article for Hermann Hesse's fairy tales collection. I am pretty new at this so any help or direction to others who could help would be appreciated. Thank you. Banjaloupe (talk) 18:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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Adoption request, and a volley of questions

Hi, Kevinalewis,

Most of my questions have to do with copyright and attribution. I've edited a bit, on and off, since last year about this time. I've gotten tangled up in a really long Gertrude Stein article and wound up leaving it for a space of time. Lately, I've been editing Innocents Abroad.

I don't actually have a whole lot of time to play with this much longer, but when I get back to it, and if you're willing to take me on, I'd sure appreciate a look over and some feedback in general about Gertrude Stein and Innocents Abroad entries

I've played around with embedded images in both pages. In Gertrude Stein, I used a lot of images from the Yale Beineke library in this manner. I'm curious if there should be some sort of formal request to use the images, because I've used a bunch of them.

At Innocents Abroad, I've also embedded materials from two big projects, to which I've given prominent attribution.

Thanks much, Pinckney2007 (talk · contribs)

Thanks and thanks and some clarification on the copyright question

Thanks for the reply, for looking at the pages, and for the adoption!

My question about copyright is based on the following: the links I've added in go right to the source pages, where the copyright resides. Or stated another way, I've not used the images on the wikipage; a reader needs to leave wiki to view the image and they view the image at the originating copyrighted source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocents_Abroad#Introductory_Chapter_Outlines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Stein#The_paintings_on_the_wall

About adding content, beyond the sources to Innocents Abroad, yes, and thanks. I'll look at your example!

Pinckney2007 (talk) 15:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007

chapter headings in IO

Hi, Kevin-

Thanks for the observation about chapter headings in Innocents Abroad. I did/am doing that for a couple of reasons ... to get me through the book, so I can figure out how to fix up the non-encyclopedic summary that was there when I started (thanks for moving it back up where it started, btw), and second, because there's no plot really. It's a travelogue and each chapter tends to be an island. Still, I appreciate the critique, and I'll incorporate an analysis for why the lists or dump the lists entirely. ... I'll figure on it a bit.

Thanks for adopting me, and for giving me so much feedback already. I sincerely appreciate it.

Pinckney2007 (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007

The Road to Samarcand

Thank you for improving this article. As the writer, I know you could help me by looking at the posts on the discussion page and seeing if you could give any response or advice. Best regards,Hammerdrill (talk) 14:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping an eye on this article. I read your comment in history (this is not html these are not needed). I think I need a little help, because I can't tell what this refers to. Thank you!Hammerdrill (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Kevin, could I please ask your advice about my article, The Road to Samarcand? I was thinking of trying to get it reassessed, because you can see I've worked hard on it. I was hoping you suggest what my next step should be? (I know I need an image of the first edition cover in the infobox. Unfortunately, this is giving me fits, and I am thinking there aren't many copies available!) I have stared at the article for so long that I might as well be looking at a piece of formica. Do you mind checking it over?Hammerdrill (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Kevin, thank you for the improvements in The Road to Samarcand, especially in the beautiful footnote work. I see I have much to learn about how to notate them. You will notice on the Talk page of the article that I commented under your entry -- I removed the references you mentioned. Your comment that the article is looking good prompts me to think seriously about nominating it for a higher rating. I plan to list it for either B rating or good article status. I hesitate about the latter, because without an image in the infobox of a first edition copy I don't know if it could qualify for good article. Is that a reasonable reservation? I asked for help on the Talk page from readers in England in getting an image of the first edition cover. Though I will keep looking, I feel the chances are small I will find one in the USA. I have all the rest of the information amended to the first edition: number of pages, name of jacket artist and corrected spelling of the publisher.Hammerdrill (talk) 02:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your opinion on the talk page. I appreciate your interest and your help to date. I decided to submit the article to see if it could be rated now as a B, rather than nominate it for Good Article status.Hammerdrill (talk) 00:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Changed up a bit in innocents abroad to explain chapter summaries; thoughts on the links to outside sources

Hi, again, Kevin-

And thanks for your comments.

I've added in some overview paragraphs to the Innocents Abroad material, to explain why I've given some chapter summaries.

And thanks for your thoughts on my links to the outside sources, in both Gertrude Stein and IO.

I'm going to take a stab at an argument for maintaining some reverent use of hyperlinks and here goes:

The intertextuality possibilities of the internet encylopedia are exciting to me, and I figure the Beineke library is stable and the links will survive intact for some time, given no copyright concerns -- or concerns that what I have linked -- violates clearly stated wiki standards. I think the wiki gallery of linked images, in the Gertrude Stein situation, highlights important features of the Beineke digital library and I think that wiki interacts in a way that is favorable to Beineke.

Likewise, in using the links to the two main Mark Twain projects that I've found, where they bear on the Innocents Abroad, I think the wiki article also highlights those sources in a favorable, and encyclopedic way.

Still, I appreciate wiki awareness and excess of caution as related to using other's work products, and that's why I asked the question, and why I continue to ponder the issue.

I'm in the middle of a busy season right now in my work, and I won't be able to spend much time online.

I sincerely appreciate your insight and advice.

Happy Thursday to you!

Pinckney2007 (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007

Greetings

Happy Christmas from Australia!

Happy Christmas, Kevinalewis. May you find time to refresh yourself, and may you continue to enjoy wiki-ing in 2009 ~ with thanks for all your help and encouragement in 2008 ~ from Julia R. o<| =)

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Response on article talk page. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

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The Serpent and the Rainbow (novel)

Was the move The Serpent and the Rainbow (book) to The Serpent and the Rainbow (novel) appropriate? The book purports to be a genuine account, although its claims have been criticized. NoVomit (talk) 12:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Many novels are "true" accounts and the article had a tag on it that claimed it to be a novel I just made it consistent. It that was false it should return but be made similarly consistent.:: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 23:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

OK sorry. The book was considered an account of Davis' journeys in Haiti. How much is actually truth and now much is not is anyone's guess, but he does not claim for it to be a novel, so I went ahead and moved it back. Thanks for the help editing. NoVomit (talk) 09:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)