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I just ran across[edit]

your Citations needed banner at Riverside Church and being one of those who might be able to provide some citations, well I feel a need for more specific direction. That is to say, what needs to be footnoted or whatever. I'm not inclined to go through a footnote the address and that sort of thing, so . . . ............ what can I do for you (abput 2,500 miles from NYC) . Carptrash 00:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your clear, simple answer. I will see what I can do, which means that it is # 7 on my list of TO DOs, with some new stuff being added at the top of the list. Carptrash 17:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!!![edit]

John, very welcome to the WP:AYYA(WIKIPROJECT:AYYAVAZHI), and too for your contributions in arranging the articles over there. We too expect very much and need your good works over the series of articles, Thanks.

And, though i created the project i don't know much regarding projects (assessment, creating 'to do list' etc) rather than writing articles. So i request you to help over there. Once again, Thanks very much. Regards. - PAUL RAJ 07:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus work group[edit]

Can you help with setting up the assement bot and creating: Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Jesus work group articles by quality statistics

This is still beyond my abilities. -- SECisek 15:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I'll have to see what you did. Perhaps I can do it myself in the future. I know some article for the Jesus group are tagged already. The project looks much better. Hopefully we can spruce the portal up to match. -- SECisek 16:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spiritual Baptist[edit]

Regarding these two edits [1] and [2], I'm curious as to what criterion you are using for these decisions. Thanks. Guettarda 21:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I just don't know. The name "Baptist" comes from their historical origins - the brought the name "Baptist" with them. What defines a baptist? Is it theology, membership in an organisation, or just using the name? I just don't know. Guettarda 21:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the "work group" may be the least problematic - if there is an active Baptist work group, it might be worth soliciting opinions. As for "new religious movements" - not sure if I'd go for that without a source (after all, it has its roots in the War of 1812). I think the current cat:Afro-American religions might be the best option, although that might offend some Spiritual Baptists, since they consider themselves Christian. Guettarda 21:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Your feedback would be appreciated[edit]

Barnstar[edit]

The Music Barnstar
I award you, Warlord John Carter, this barnstar to thank you for your participation in the December Assessment drive for WikiProject Elvis Presley which ran from November 28–29, finishing before it even officially started! :) Thanks again. Lara❤Love 15:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Unitarian Universalism work group[edit]

Hi John, Since we have had four people express interest, I've started a page for the work group. Aleta 19:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to add yourself, or should I go ahead and do so? (Assuming you haven't changed your mind! :) ) Aleta 01:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dbachmann[edit]

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dbachmann/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dbachmann/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel(Talk) 19:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Email[edit]

After a bit of thinking I've enabled email on my account. JASpencer 19:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 4 December, 2007, a fact from the article Four Crowned Martyrs, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Twinkle/doc[edit]

Hi Sorry, that was an accident, I have now nominated it for speedy deletion. Samuell Lift me up or put me down 01:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC) No, not the page, the MFD was an accident, the page is fine. Samuell Lift me up or put me down 01:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Tattva vision[edit]

Not sure why you added the "secret society" box -- this entered into the mainstream of Western occultism by way of the Golden Dawn, but other than that historical connection, it has little to do with secret societies as such... AnonMoos (talk) 02:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Watcher (Highlander)[edit]

Hello, about the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Secret_Societies banner you put on the Watcher (Highlander) talk page, I'm not sure if this article is within the scope of this wikiproject since the Watchers are a fictional secret society and as I understand it, the WP is for real life societies. Please let me know about it, and happy editing. Have a nice day, Rosenknospe (talk) 09:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the banner is OK that way, I was just wondering. Thanks, Rosenknospe (talk) 15:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

William Wilberforce[edit]

Thanks for your comments and positive criticisms on this article – very helpful. I'll be seeking to put them into effect over the next few days. – Cheers, Bruce Agendum (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Placing articles on probation[edit]

I'm sure you meant something thoughtful here, but I guess I'm just being dense today. Thus, can you please enlighten me as to what you meant? Thanks!--Ramdrake (talk) 15:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Butler's[edit]

If you have a recent edition of Butler's and can confirm that the Roman Catholic Church sees Edmund as a lesser patron, please do. This has been going on since last August. One rotten, single purpose, sock puppet account has caused all this trouble. Let's get this resolved if we can. -- SECisek (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Please Come Talk[edit]

I see you've been making a lot of changes recently at WikiProject:Central Asia. While I'm sure they're well-intended, you're making some very drastic edits which should be discussed first. For example, you heavily altered the template itself, removing the importance section (which helps us editors know which articles to focus on, and which several of us spent a lot of time organizing), as well as the wording. I'm reverting that back to the way it was. If you want to make major changes like that, please talk about it first. Otebig 02:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Woah, calm down. Nobody is "suspect" here. Let's be clear, you were the one who made a big change. That's fine, but you eliminated an important part of the template in the process, which was my concern. As I said, it might be good to talk with others involved the project (besides me) before doing major alterations (you agreed, by the way). I was assuming you were going to start a discussion, and was waiting for that (which has yet to happen). I reverted the template simply so that in the meantime, the importance rating would be there for editors to use. Again, my only concern is that the project ratings are displayed. Having a workgroup rating displayed without the project rating could muddle things up for people, and we should be sure the changes would be beneficial (especially since you're putting a fair amount of time into this, which I do appreciate). Along with that, there may be some other questions which are a matter for discussion. If you want to fix the template anyway, without a discussion, then I would politely ask that both original ratings are displayed. Otebig (talk) 04:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Secret Societies[edit]

John,

We both have suspicions about Blueboar's and ALR's involvement in this debate, hopefully unfounded, but please cool the rhetoric down. They are unlikely to get a deletion unless they goad some of the supporters into appearing unreasonable.

For that matter ALR does have some valid points which should be addressed. The idea that Freemasonry should not be included is a bit ambitious (even if it were not a secret society it is pretty central to most cowan's understanding of what a secret society is) but are we really going to stray into college fraternities, crime families and terrorist groups?

JASpencer (talk) 15:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John... Just to be clear... I don't think Wikiproject Secret Societies should be deleted. I actually said as much on the MfD debate. I do have concerns... but they can be dealt with (in fact you have already dealt with some of them... thanks). We have obviously gotten off to a bad start... I made some edits to which you took offence. You reacted with such force that I got offended in return. Since we are going to have to work together, I ask that we both put that bad start behind us. I think you are acting in good faith... please accept that I am actually doing so as well. We don't have to agree with each other, but we can at least be civil in our disagreements. Let's start over... please? Blueboar (talk) 18:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would look forward to being able to work without conflict with an editor who is very knowledgable about a subject relevant to something with which I hope to try to work. I've said elsewhere that I took my name in part because of a self-recognized weakness for belligerence I have. In fact, I've turned down running for adminship about 10 times on that basis. Having said that, I know up front that the phrasing of the scope of the project needs work. I've tried to answer some of your concerns there. If you can fix the phrasing of the "Scope" section, I would welcome the help. John Carter 18:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Blueboar, I know now that you don't want the project deleted. Let's see if we can keep the next heated disagreement off until, ooh, next week. JASpencer (talk) 19:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lyman Ray Patterson[edit]

You added Lyman Ray Patterson to WikiProject Christianity. Someone already wondered about this on the article's talk page, and I am curious, too. Lyman Ray Patterson was a copyright scholar; the article contains nothing that obviously ties him to Christianity. Can you enlighten us? Rl (talk) 08:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Malcolm Johnson[edit]

I had a similar question concerning Malcolm Johnson. He graduated from a Baptist college but I have no data that he was a Baptist. Even if he was, I don't see how that puts him under the aegis of a religion project unless he has more connection to the religion than being a member of the faith. Can you clarify your rationale on this?--Mantanmoreland (talk) 15:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

please explain more fully...[edit]

please explain more fully this esit.

how does Xianity fit in?

cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Oddfellows[edit]

Hi! I see you've added Oddfellows to "WikiProject Secret Societies". I'm wondering if Odd Fellows and Independent Order of Odd Fellows should also be added? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 03:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I guess I need to read Wikipedia:WikiProject Secret Societies#Scope and react as appropriate! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inactive projects[edit]

I was going to ignore the inactive ones, but I had some free time. We need to convert about 200 old style Syrac Christianity tags to the new style. Also almost all of the DYKs on Christianity's main page need a tag for the Christian project. I think anyone/any place/any event that does not have pan-Christian importance should be left to a daughter project. If we are going to tag EVERY Christian article on WP what is even the point of having the daughter projects? So, while Martin Luther should be tagged by multiple religious projects, Bishop of Sodor and Man could be probably just be handled by the Anglican project. What do you think?

The Calvinism Portal was also void of content for weeks, so I overhauled it. -- SECisek (talk) 17:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to put to rest inactive projects? I know that there is the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals for new proposals. Also, while adding format templates to the Christianity and Anglican project cat pages, I added cats that might not be correct by moving them too high up - see Category:WikiProject Anglicanism and Category:WikiProject Christianity. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 17:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I wasn't aware of Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Inactive projects. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miron Cristea[edit]

You added to Miron Cristea: He is regarded as a saint, with his feast day set on June 9. [3] Do you have any source for this? I was not able to find any. bogdan (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have won![edit]

Greetings, Chief. You are now the Chief of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Democratic Republic of the Congo work group. I have nominated myself as the Assistant Secretary to the Chief. We only have two members, you and me. When we get a third member, I stop being the Assistant Secretary to the Chief as position titles are normally not given to wikiproject members. For now, we are a group of two, Chief. I pledge my loyalty to uphold the Chief.

I have taken your suggestion and disbanded WikiProject:Congo. When our work group is larger, there may be support to revive it. But for now, it's back to work, back to article writing. Congolese (talk) 05:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Portal Peer Review[edit]

Portal:The Simpsons is on Portal Peer Review. Your feedback/comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Portal peer review/The Simpsons, before I eventually nominate the portal to be a Featured Portal Candidate. (Dropping you a note because you've provided some good help/feedback with my other portal work.) Cirt (talk) 14:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC). [reply]

British films[edit]

HI John can you cover my tracks and tag British films of 1969 etc with film|class=list and WikiProject United Kingdom from 1940 - where I am now . As you can see I'm doing something big with it. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


John its rather pathetic but it is clear to me the Preity Zinta article is at least GA. It is quite an insult to see it as a B class. Its improved a lot even since the FA nomination and is clearly above a B class ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 17:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Catregory:A-Class+Iglesia+ni+Cristo+work+group+articles, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

June 2007 Wikiproject Christianity Newsletter[edit]

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Eliza Marsden Hassall[edit]

Updated DYK query On 13 July, 2007, Did you know?' was updated with a fact from the article Eliza Marsden Hassall, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Hi[edit]

Wiki-Alert
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Please come along and contribute by editing or joining for more information contact User:Highfields who is an admin on the site and self proclaimed 'Head of Bondpedia Advertising on Wikipedia'

References are not my strong point[edit]

I tried to put in the references for Anthony Kiedis, David Beckham, etc. Yikes! But I did find them when I searched it. Just search "(subst. name)" "Kabbalah". Like I said I tried to do it myself but it didn't go well. But I do see how that link is only Demi Moore and Donna Karan if that's what your talking about. Lighthead þ 22:41, August 15 2007 (UTC)

Welcome![edit]

Welcome to WikiProject History![edit]

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my rfa[edit]

Somewhat-Belated RfA Thanks :-)[edit]

Latin Freemasonry[edit]

Is the merge tag still appropriate? The anti-clericalism is much smaller now and other aspects have been added to it. The debate on the merge certainly has not reached any consensus. The article really can not move on, for example with the name, while the merger is still being debated (or not as seems to be the case). JASpencer (talk) 20:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That was quick. JASpencer (talk) 20:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 15 December, 2007, a fact from the article Ebrulf, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Archtransit (talk) 22:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Laos[edit]

Merry Christmas and all the best for 2008 from the Bald One ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 13:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've put my name down for Wikipedia:WikiProject Southeast Asia/Laos work group. I'd noticed missing content on Laos like Burma and Vietnam. You still didn't respond to me about the Zinta article. Surely it meets GA criteria now referencing and POV has been addressed? 23:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I'll see you Monday. Its just it is a kind of long term issue that needs resolving I think. It has had a tremendous amount of work on it and I don't like to see hard work by others such as Shahid go to waste -I feel it could very easily be a GA and agreed by everyone. There is also a film Unnale Unnale which I think could become a GA -Keep up the good work with the tagging anyway ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 12:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John. Amazingly Thailand doesn't have its own wikiproject yet. I know you are very busy but would you be interested in helping create a WikiProject Thailand. I can't believe it doesn't exist yet as there is so much to cover and discuss. The WIkiProject South East Asia is far too broad I think to aim at developing a series of countires as a whole -I;d imagine you agree. What do you think?. WiseKwai and Ahoemeister would perhaps be interested amd myself. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 13:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome work with the tagging and setting up projects!! Great work!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 14:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we need create a SE asia task bar to connect the projects together? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 14:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK I've started Template:WP SE Asia Sidebar. Perhaps you can think of some things to add to it ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note that Singapore and Philippines don't have wikiprojects or task forces only the announcements/portal type pages ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think the Singapore and philippine spage then should be moved to standard wikiporject naming then ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to disturb you again but I am going to rename Category:Cities in Burma as Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burma. I've just seen the encarta map and have realised that most places from places like Burma and Laos are completely missing. There are literally thousands missing. I think I should be aiming to set up articles like Hnonae with locators. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more (I could see you were busy). Thats exactly how I feel. What I have a problem with is uneveness in coverage and that even large towns in other parts of the world haven't even been started yet when equally sized towns in the US and UK even have articles on the local leisure centre etc and multiple categories for it alone -and then you see how many other things could be covered as well!! -quite frankly it gives me a headache to think about it -it is larger than you can possibly imagine -but I am certain that this site has the potential to do this is in the future. We've got to start somewhere (at present there are one liners on cities with 500,000 people in China and Japan!)-it may be at least ten years before it begins to reach a more universal coverage-I am very pleased you have set up project places all across the world to try to at least begin to address the bias problem -this is the best thing that can possibly be done. At present though once again I'm finding it difficult to find a reliable and detailed resource for such places -due to incorrections with the place names etc and just lack of available details. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Heres something you might be interested in . It would make a good DYK actually if I do some more work on it and add references. St. Paul's Cathedral, Mdina designed by Lorenzo Gafa is built on the spot where the shiprecked St. Paul met the governor Publius. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey no problems its Christmas time!!! Hope you liked my card. Hey have you seen the film The Motorcycle Diaries? It is an Argentine film and I saw it the other night -a brilliant film. The journey of the young Che Guevaro and his amigo when they were young physicians across South America. They crossed the Atacama to CHile and Valapaiso and into Cuzco and Macchu Picchu and Lima and then took a paddle steamer to a colony in the Peruvian jungle where they stayed at a leprosy clinic and disobeyed order to remain on oppositie sides of the river to those affected by the disease. Based around 1952 or 1953. A great film and the scenery was spectacular. The Bolivians and the Peruvians definately looked like they have CHinese ancestry -in fact some of the old peruvians looked curiously similar to the Tibetans (who are of course of Mongol descent). Two places in the world which are close to my heart, Tibet and darkest Peru!! (Paddington Bear was a childhood pal of mine LOL!!) Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Keyes A-Class Review[edit]

A while back, when Alan Keyes was submitted for review, you made a few comments on things needed to improve the article. I believe Stormie and myself have responded to these criticisms and fixed them more than adequately. Since only yourself and DrKiernan have looked at the article, I would appreciate it if you could go back through it and see if its up to A-class in your eyes now. Please come by if you can. We have DrKiernan's support. Now we only need yours. Thanks. --Jdcaust (talk) 20:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for coming by and checking it again. Good luck in the future! --Jdcaust (talk) 20:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin Donoghue lead section[edit]

As i understand you are part of the Lead Paragraph Cleanups wikiproject, so i would be really grateful if you could expand the lead section of the article, because articles can't have clean up tags if you want them to be in a copy-edit. I would be really grateful i you could, but if you cant can you please forward my request to another person. Thanks. Sunderland06  21:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for expanding it, can i remove the lead expansion tags. Thanks again.  Sunderland06  15:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry[edit]

Previous warning (see edit history) was a misunderstanding - I came across a heavily vandalized article that I took to be an attack page and TWINKLE automatically notified you of the speedy deletion notice. However, I then noticed it was vandalised and have reverted. Sorry for any confusion! Stephenb (Talk) 10:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Your GA nomination of Palau[edit]

The article Palau you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Palau for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Rt. 17:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WPMacau[edit]

Hi, a member of the WikiProject Macau recently highlighted that an option in the above template {{WPMacau}} is not available or functional (See here). I tried to assist but unfortunately I wasn't familiar with its parser functions. According to the history log, I noticed that u are the creator for the template earlier. As such, cld u assist on his request asap. Thanks! -- Aldwinteo (talk) 04:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Section Barnstar[edit]

Do you want a lead section barnstar to be made to award the user for expansion of lead setions. It would be no problem. But you might have to tell me what picture to use in it. Thanks.  Sunderland06  15:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a barnstar so far it looks like this i am busy putting the image into the actual star. Tell me if you like.
Leader of the pack
Thank you for expanding the lead section of the Gavin Donoghue article. Thanks.  Sunderland06  16:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Proa lead[edit]

I expanded the lead paragraph for proa; I'd appreciate it if you could take a look and see what you think. I'll be happy to add more detail if there are any aspects you think are lacking. scot (talk) 00:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nom - Rasso[edit]

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 24 December, 2007, a fact from the article Rasso, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

~ Riana ⁂ 10:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Joyeux Noël[edit]

The composer of my favorite Christmas carol.

I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Merry Christmas! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 21:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same here, from S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Merry Christmas!) 02:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Merry Christmas, John Carter/Archive Jan 2008! Wishing you a very Merry Christmas!
Best regards from myself! -- S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Merry Christmas!)

Post this merry message on any other user talk page you can find.


Wishing you the very best for the season - Guettarda 06:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject contemporary music[edit]

Hello, could you help us add a rating grid at Wikipedia:WikiProject contemporary music, like this one? Badagnani (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invite to WikiProject Equine[edit]

This is the official word: WikiProject Equine was quietly created by someone while the rest of us were endlessly discussing a WikiProject Horse. We have an official project! So let's go with it, and I am officially inviting you to formally join! Go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Equine, add your name to the list and see what you can contribute. If you haven't already joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse breeds or one of the other "child" or "affiliated" wikiprojects at WikiProject Equine, please feel free to do so. Just trying to tag articles with the new templates has awakened me to the fact that there are over 1000 equine articles in Wikipedia! (My watchlist alone is now at something like 700+) There's much to do and plenty for everyone! Thanks! Montanabw(talk) 09:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invite to WikiProject Equine[edit]

This is the official word: WikiProject Equine was quietly created by someone while the rest of us were endlessly discussing a WikiProject Horse. We have an official project! So let's go with it, and I am officially inviting you to formally join! Go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Equine, add your name to the list and see what you can contribute. If you haven't already joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse breeds or one of the other "child" or "affiliated" wikiprojects at WikiProject Equine, please feel free to do so. Just trying to tag articles with the new templates has awakened me to the fact that there are over 1000 equine articles in Wikipedia! (My watchlist alone is now at something like 700+) There's much to do and plenty for everyone! Thanks! Montanabw(talk) 09:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year[edit]

Dear Warlordjohncarter, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! ...and more battles for the cause of good! ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MP cleanup[edit]

Happy Holidays John. I cleaned up the remaining MP problems on Ebionites-related articles, except for Tabor. That will take a bit longer to check. I removed your POV tags on Joses and Clopas and made a few minor revisions. Those disputes were getting stale, as no one has been working on the articles. Cheers. Ovadyah (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template for deletion[edit]

I recently created a template Template:Townships of Yangon and started the districts of the city. our Burmese friend follwoed my example and made a template for the Mandalay Division of which he has recently visited (and has uploaded images to place slike Kyaukse etc!! However it is up for deletion. Incidentally it it the same editor who recently tried to tell me what wikipedia is!! Please leave your thoughts at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Townships of Mandalay Division. thankyou. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 14:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 2008 WikiProject Chile Newsletter[edit]

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{{OrientalOrthodoxy-stub}}[edit]

I noticed while sorting through the Egyptian biography stubs that you had placed this stub back in April on several biography articles of Coptic Christians who while notable, were not notable because of anything with respect to their religion. Stub sorting is not intended as a substitute for categorization, in part because we desire to keep the number of stub templates on an article to as few as possible. Standard practice is to use religion stubs on biography articles only if a person is noteworthy if they have served in a religious capacity, acted to ensure the civil rights of persons following their religion, suffered significant persecution as a result of their faith, or otherwise was notable because of their faith. Being in a faith and notable for some non-religious reason is not considered a reason to tag an article with the stub template for that faith. Caerwine Caer’s whines 20:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ho hum, the compasses are a-trembling[edit]

A paras been removed in the FM article. You may also want to see what's being said about Deism in the same article. JASpencer (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Admin coaching[edit]

Hello John! I noticed your request on the admin coaching page, and was wondering if you'd like me to be your coach. If you already have another offer that's preferable, that's fine too. I've been through admin coaching myself, and would be willing to devote a lot of time to helping you improve as an editor, and eventually, become an administrator. Please tell me what you think. Best regards, Keilanatalk(recall) 19:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd be delighted. You've done a lot of great work, and I seriously thought you were an admin until I saw your request. What would you like to learn about, admin-wise? Keilanatalk(recall) 19:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about it, take all the time you need. I'm an eventualist. :) Keilanatalk(recall) 20:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need admin coaching! Get onto RfA already! :) (Actually, I'm not really joking. Wikipedia EN needs more admins, fact. Do you have any concerns that are holding you back? Anything I can help with?) --kingboyk (talk) 20:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with Kingboyk on this one. Let's write you up a nomination and get this thing moving! It's far past time you had the tools. Pastordavid (talk) 22:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't want to be coached, I'll write you a nom if you want, you'd probably pass even without coaching. Keilanatalk(recall) 23:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do what you think is best. If you feel you need to learn more about adminship before standing, that's fine - coaching is the way to go. If you're happy to learn on the job, my advice is to stand now. You have a good record, a good attitude (assuming I haven't missed any controversy you've been involved in :)), and lots of ability. I'd be pretty surprised if you didn't get the nod and - we do need more admins! --kingboyk (talk) 17:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck! Rudget. 21:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Africa template[edit]

I should be finished tommorrow or the day after. I could also help out with admin coaching if you wanted ;-)--Phoenix-wiki 20:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Religion WikiProjects[edit]

Is there much overlap between the various religion WikiProjects? (in terms of templating) --kingboyk (talk) 21:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Somehow noticed your copyedits on a separate page for Preity Zinta. Thanks for taking care. I took the liberty to implement some of them on the article itself. I hope you don't mind. Although there were some mistakes for example "the" leading actress which is too praising.

I also didn't display the removal of cast members/co-stars which is a format in almost every possible FA and a sentences with lots of "also". Anyway, thank you so much for helping out. I just came to inform you that I displayed some of your changes, and that I hope you don't mind. Best regards, Shahid • Talk2me 22:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK thanks, it's great that you're working on that, so that I can look and display your copyedits. Again, there were some mistakes, and info which was wrong, and some parts with too many full stops and "also"s, which I didn't display on tha page. That's why I'm happy that you're first doing it in on a separate page. That's how the goal can be achieved very soon. I really like to see this standard raising and improving. Great work, thanks and good luck!! Shahid • Talk2me 17:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Man why is it wherever I go Shahid seems to have got theit first!! Yes it would be great if you could get Zinta where it deserves. Hey what do you think of the new Tibetan Buddhism template I created for Tibet in Monlam Prayer Festival? I'm rather pleased with it, I tried to match the colour of the robes with the burgundy!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Provincial capitals like Pursat etc which have tens of thousands of inhabitants as yet don't even have basic facts and are still one liners, yet places on provincial capitals in the UK and America etc would have hundreds , even thousands of articles on that place alone. What concerns me is that few people seems to care about it, nobody has even attempted to try to develop the major cities in places like cambodia, vietnam, Laos etc let alone the smaller settlements. Basically if you compare it to a developed country such as the UK - with Cambodia only places like London, Birmingham and Manchester are covered and have half decent articles -the rest of the country - 99% isn't even covered. I'm discussing it with you because you seem one of the few people who actually care about covering places evenly and are actively doing something to change this!! Tell me John, once you have finished your work on setting up the wikiprojects would you be willing to work with me a bit and help me try to expand and add articles on places such as this? I can't do it alone!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 12:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Freemasonry discussion topic started on Systematic Bias[edit]

Hi John. You'll probably want to comment on this topic [[4]]. Please note that although it may seem a bit strong I really do mean what I say about having no doubt about anyone's good faith.

JASpencer (talk) 14:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Endeavour River National Park actually included on World Heritage list?[edit]

Looking at above stub article' talk page history it seems you may have tagged this article as falling within Wiki World Heritage Sits project scope. Please note I have asked the World Heritage status of this Park to be verified, and have left message on the relevant editor's talk page to that effect.! Cheers Bruceanthro (talk) 02:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry .. as I actually live in the region, I'm probably more familiar with both the Wet Tropics plus available internet resources. I'll now post external link to alow resolution map of the Wet Tropics World Heritage Area on Endeavour River NP talk page, arguing that Endeavour River National Park is NOT part of Wet Tropics World Heritage Area. Perhaps, after a day, I may then remove World Heritage edit, categories, and tags?!
I also note this possible mislocation has been carried over on to the Wet Tropics of Queensland World Heritage Area page. I was keen to work on THAT page anyway, so I may also remove reference to Endeavour River NP from there, and begin the work of actually identifying and naming all those parks that ARE part of the Wet Tropics! In the mean time I'll add highly pertinent and relevant external link that page! Thanks Bruceanthro (talk) 00:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.. I'll remove World Heritage references, categories, and tags for this and for Wet Tropics articles. Heard nothing back from original editor. Cheers Bruceanthro (talk) 22:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done at last[edit]

Well, it took a while but here it is {{AfricaProject}} Hope it's satisfactory--Phoenix-wiki 21:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice[edit]

Ok, John. This is to notify you that I am ready to move this nomination to requests for adminship. I, and many others who know about such things, have been trying to convince you that you would be a wonderful asset as an admin for quite some time, perhaps actually seeing the nomination in print will persuade you. I know that anyone who has your talk page watchlisted will happily agree that you are beyond qualified, and would make a great admin. If you will accept the nomination, I will move it into place. Pastordavid (talk) 19:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I took your answers to the questions as a positive sign, and it is now located here. If you just make a note under the "Accept nomination here" section, I will transclude it onto the main RfA page, and we'll go live with it. Pastordavid (talk) 20:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Away we go! Pastordavid (talk) 21:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hiram Abiff[edit]

Came across this going through your edits for the RfA nom. May I make a suggestion? I would word this article in terms of "According to Masonic tradition ..." I say this primarily because the biblical account does not identify him as Hiram Abiff. Later Masonic tradition does, and it is from that tradition that the details come. By analogy, in dealing with WP Saints, there are many individuals about whom we say "According to Christian tradition ..." because there is nothing outside of the traditionaly accounts about their lives. In terms of WP Saints, this allows the reader to determine whether the traditional account is history or legend (or fiction), rather than drawing the conclusion for the reader, one way or the other. I think the Abiff article could benefit from the same sort of detached description. Pastordavid (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

African wikiprojects[edit]

John have you split the African wiki projects yet. I certainly think WikiProject Kenya should be sorted as with most of the others. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC) Looks like you;ve set up a taskforce but why isn't the parameter working e.g AfricaProject|kenya=yes? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah your're not kidding about not being able to get access to the locked templates. Editors like you and I are clearly core editors on here and should have admin tools anyway -it is clear we are both very contructive and unlikely to "vandalise" them. I have never been able to even edit the Template:Actors fully despite having set up the project on Actors and Filmmakers itself!! I don't know how we are supposed to add the parameters and assess those articles then. I'm glad you've decided to go for adminship this will be very useful- see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Warlordjohncarter. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that but you'll have to discuss the changes with Shahid, User:Shshshsh rather than myself see if he is happy with it. I currently rather busy sorting out the museums by state. Of all the 250 million Americans its left to moi to clean up!!

Check out

I split mostly of them yesterday from a directory list and am making them encyclopedic by turning them into table format with images to liven up the boring pages!

You must be pretty pleased with the turn out so far at your rfa -amazing support. Nice to know you are appreciated huh (even if most people never thankyou or seem to be aware of the work you do!) Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good work John thanks. I;ve just split Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burma. I think it is necessary to set up the infrastructure ready to build it. PLease let me know what you think ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find a way of putting them in alphabetical order? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk • contribs) 19:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks -I;ve just figured a way out to index them in alpha without bloating it into different letter sun headings -I;m fixing it now. As there are 35,000 settlements and thousands in each state it prepares for the growth. I awlays prefer to label the categories cities, towns and villages as I like it to cover all settlements and not have all sort of confusing seperate categories on cities, and villages labelled as cities etc. We should be able to get the main towns and citiesin the country set up within a week or so =then of course there will still be 34,700+ potential articles for settlements!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You;ve set up so many work pages but I must admit I was a little surprised to not find any activity on a country as huge as Kazakhstan, I would have expected a small wiki project in the least. Does Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia/Kazakhstan work group have any parameters yet. Personally I think its best to set up seperate project banners and say it is part of the Central Asia group and then assess articles by country in sub categories and then link them in one WIkiProject Central Asia articles -what do you think? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


What? What sort of an editor would revert the parameters? I really think its best to create seperate banners and cateogries and then have them feeding into a main regional project category like I suggested. Given time I don't see a reason why most countries can't develop enough activity -it will take time sure. What have you been doing with Africa then? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Well thats the thing, your edits shouldn't have been reverted, each edit is valuable and time can't be wasted. It does disappoint me to be honest that some of the state groups in America are inactive. Given the global size of this project particular the high percentage of American users its not what I;d have expected. Yes I afully agree with you workgroups are the best way to start and you've done a marvellous job on this, but what I am saying is that it would be very useful to set up the necessary infrastructure -e.g seperate assessments and banners for each country and have them feeding into the main WP regional category. This way each country can have a rigid form of assessment and identity but at the same time the workgroup doesn't have to be a formal project. i think this would save a lot of effort in reasseeessing articles in the future if certain workgroups gain enough support to become fully fledged projects e.g Category:GA-class Kenya articles rather than labelling them "workgroup articles". Given my core priorities on wikipedia I should be helping you set this up every step of the way ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

I have displayed a major part of your copyedits on the page, and it looks terrific. There were some mistakes which I didn't display. Also, according to User:Sandy, words that are simple like dimple, basketball, cat, moon should not be linked.

I think that it can be nominated for an FA:) but it's better to wait for Dwaipayanc. For now, we can definitely nominate it for GA, but tell me please, can't we just ask some GA reviewer to review the article? The problem is that (from my earlier experience) it just takes ages! It took us two months, until we asked some reviewer to review the article. What do you say?

Again, thank you so so much. Regards Shahid • Talk2me 14:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well the editor I asked to review it previously is now absent unfortunately. Anyway, thank you so muchh for your efforts. It's greatly appreciated. :) Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 17:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Preity Zinta[edit]

I'd rather not do that review, as it's at the bottom of the list in that section, meaning it was newly added as opposed to other editors that have been waiting for GA Reviews for quite some time now within that subsection (sometimes over a month, I know personally from experience from my own GA noms :) ). However, I tell you what I will do, I can review the article and give it an actual GA Review of my own opinion of how it matches up, pass or fail, against the GA Criteria, and make a detailed note of that on the talk page. That way, when a GA Reviewer does come by from WP:GAN, a review will be laid out for them ahead of time. Also, if you want to move things along, it is always helpful and appreciated to pick some other noms, from above your own in that section, and review those. Cirt (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]

  • I would still highly encourage you to do some reviews from higher up in that section. I always try, though I don't always do it on-time or hold myself to it, to review at least one or two noms for every one that I self-nominate at WP:GAN. Cirt (talk) 21:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Please clarify[edit]

I'm wondering why you've added your name to the spurious Arbitration request which has been initiated by Onecanadasquarebishopsgate‎ here. You don't appear to have edited Principality of Sealand, participated in any of the talk discussions related to it, or had anything to do with Onecanadasquarebishopsgate‎ until today. --Gene_poole (talk) 02:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying that. The Arbitration request is such a preposterous blancmange of lies and misrepresentations that I'm sure that any Arbitrator who looks at it for more than 3 seconds will simply dismiss it out of hand. In my opinion the best thing to do is simply sit and wait for that to happen. --Gene_poole (talk) 02:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Question[edit]

I just posted a follow up question clarifying what I meant. I was quite vague in my question so that's my fault. And also I don't think you were "evasive" answering the question about mistakes... I personally would have a hard time remembering too unless it was major and someone made a big deal out of it. Most importantly, you acknowledge you aren't infallible. :). Good luck on your confirmation (from the looks of it, it's going great). Dr.Kane (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

I'm not positive (since you've used the account), but I believe that you should be able to usurp the username, perhaps swapping edit histories. (They move the edit history of user John Carter to user:alternate name; Then they move user:Warlordjohncarter to user:John Carter; Then they move User:alternate name (which was user:John Carter) to User:Warlordjohncarter). Presuming that they will, of course. Normally the target account must have made no edits, but since this account is yours, they might?

Hope this helps : ) - jc37 03:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information. I've listed myself there. There seem to be rather a few listed in front of me, but there's no real rush here, I hope. John Carter (talk) 20:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome. If there seems a backlog, you could post a note at WP:BN. Here's to hoping : ) - jc37 21:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, now I'm curious: Did User:John Carter (prior to the rename) lose all his edit history? Or was it merged with the current edit history? Or what? - jc37 11:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email re: Jaron Lanier[edit]

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I just sent you an email, but I couldn't forward the emails from Jaron using the "email this user" link, though. As I think it's best if I forward them to you rather than copy/paste. Thanks again. → GeeAlice ♥ 19:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I forward the emails to you. Hope I sent them correctly. Let me know what you think, and any direction for me would be very appreciated. Though, as you probably can tell, I'm ignorant of Jaron Lanier's area, and not good with biographies, at least those I know nothing about. → GeeAlice ♥ 20:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I didn't expect a reply back from him so quickly, if at all. Now that I have, I feel responsible for the article. Dang-it. ;p I agree about the B/W image, but like you said -- it is clearer. Though I have another concern about the image more-so than it being B/W, I believe it to be a professional head-shot. That means even though Lanier is the subject, the copyright may belong to the photographer and that photographer may want credit for it. I'll look around for more images and email Mr. Lanier about the sources of another color, but clearer image. As for the missing information in the article, I too will try editing a bit in the next couple of days. But, I reserve the right to change my mind. lol. Thanks for all your help. It's appreciated. :) Cheers! Oh, what do you think about posting the email to the talk page of the article. Well, not the whole email, but what he feels is missing from the bio? -- in order, hopefully, to attract other editors more knowledgable becoming involved. What do you think about that? → GeeAlice ♥ 21:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to keep bugging you. (from my talk page): Even though he gave me permission to "pass the note" along? How can that be problematic? Is it because of COI? It can't be privacy, can it? As you saw the email where he even asks to pass it along. I'm just trying to do the right thing, for both Wikipedia and the subject. Thanks again. → GeeAlice ♥ 22:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

Hoz that for an image?. Thats going straight on the Vietnam main page. I have sorted out some image permits from flickr -Mike Russia at flickr has banks of images from burma, cambodia and vietnam which he is licensing under GFDL (this will probably need giving an OTRS ticketing). If you are interested have a look at the images I've uploaded so far. He's one great photographer! It make ssuch a big difference and I guarantee there are millions of image we could use if we asked ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its an almost iconic image of the south china sea isn't it with the sunset and the fishing boat. I remember they tried to emulate it in Tomorrow Never Dies with Wai Lin and Bond off the coast on the boat remember -but failed miserably! Have a look at the images I managed to get for Hsipaw. The local school as well. I love images of places which are normally very difficult to get hold of. Hopefully we can get tons of images of El Salvador and Guatemala - my sister is visiting there alone in the summer. Crazy isn't it. Those countries have a strong reputation . I've made good progress with Ekyaw today anyway -over half of the provinces now have templates and the core places started. Anyway if there are any places which you know of which require images such as Bolivia etc feel free to give me a list and I'll look at making some more "alliances" with flickr users and upload them. Can you think of any towns/places offhand with are in desperate need of images? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Mexico articles WP Mexico which is even an official project doesn't even have any article assessment yet either. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you've been active with Mexican related stuff I see. Yesterday I tried to sort out a pin map for Mexico so many of the towns and villages can be improved with infoboxes but apparently there was a problem with creating it according to User:MJC Detroit. I drew up alist of missing maps yesterday (even ones like Argentina are missing) and soon enough hopefully it will become possible to add an infobox and locator for all settlements where you can add the coordinates and details -this would be a good step to improve evenly. There is a tremendous amount of work and tagging that needs doing for Mexico I know. I'm unactive today as I've worked very hard for days. I see you've changed your user name to just John Carter and caused a holdup earlier today? LOL Thats a rather more serious name -was this a requirement for adminship or your own choice? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]



John Carter (character) right? John as a fictional name isn't quite as unusual as Ernst Stavro Blofeld now it is!! lol. What is your real name? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the name Warlord for an admin might not go down to well with some. Shouldn't really matter though. I wonder what they would think of having a bald evil old villain with a white cat and a volcano for a home as an admin. "Blofeld the Bald". "The Bald One". Names like "The Wikipedian" or whatever are just a tad too boring. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen the message below at the bottom. Chuckle. I;ve just checked out User:John Carter/Mexico tagging. I can't believe there are so many subcatgories!!!! Mut be some kind of record was unassessed articles. Thats quite a shock there was nothing to support it, no assessment at all. Yet WikiProject Pokemon was organized back in 2001!! It makes me wonder if certain people on this site are still in nappies (diapers]]). lol. Anyway I can see you have your work cut out. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hm..please see your email[edit]

I had to start a new heading because something is wrong with using the section I had begun before

Anyway, please see your email. I have received another email from Jaron which I forwarded to you. It's getting more complicated now. → GeeAlice ♥ 02:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got your email, and replied. I'm going to research some of those terms he mentioned in the first email. He did say to Google them, to see what I'd get. Oh, I also colorized the B/W image that is on his homepage. I think I'll use that one, until or if he sends me another one. He did say he would be willing to do that. I do have his permission right now to use the one on his homepage. Gonna try doing that now, and hope BetacommandBot, or whatever that bots name is, won't kill it. ;p → GeeAlice ♥ 03:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for your support
Thank you SO MUCH for your support in my unanimous RFA. Take this cookie as a small token of my appreciation.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 06:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Chief[edit]

Chief, as you know, until we get a 3rd member (at which time there will be no titles) you are Chief of the WikiProject Africa/Democratic Republic of the Congo and I am the Assistant Secretary to the Chief.

What do you think about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Turtlescrubber

I came with a neutral observation and call for peaceful consensus in an argument which I was never involved in. There is so much hate there. What would you do, if anything? As an observer? As an observing admin?

My objectives are clear...help 2 people do their 2 articles to reach FA, work on the Toyota Prius article, and then do Congolese related articles. Good luck on your RFA which I've supported and hope that the chief will become administrator and chief. Congolese fufu (talk) 07:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have much courage to discuss that problem on ANI when your RFA is ongoing. I made a few comments and quickly saw that several people there were extremely hostile and incivil. Looks like your RFA will pass. Changing your name makes it more mainstream but the warlord part was funny. It when well with the title of Chief that I bestowed on you. There doesn't seem to be much interest in the Congo work group. After I finish the tasks on hand (3 articles, 2 of them FA's), I'll work on that. Congolese fufu (talk) 05:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

username[edit]

Just to be clear: I did not at all mean to say that you're belligerent. My opinion about the warlord part is not a judgment or allegation of any kind, it's just that I personally think even stricter criteria apply for admin usernames, to avoid possible confusion or an intimidating effect, particularly with newbies. To give another example, I mentioned the "drama" in User:Lradrama's second RfA. So, I appreciate your move, but you're certainly not belligerent. Although if it were indeed the case, I'd be less inclined to point out the issue (but I probably wouldn't support either). User:Dorftrottel 19:04, January 11, 2008

It was probably the moving of all the logs and the changing from the old username entries in all page histories to the new name, being queued for processing all at once when the 'crat hit the button. As to a certain tendency to stab first ask later: All I can say is, me too. User:Dorftrottel 19:17, January 11, 2008
I think it was a good idea to rename - technical blips aside - I supported due to your long positive participations but similarly had an issue with the name which would have stopped me from supporting had you not been so well known in a positive way. Agathoclea (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John, I'm wondering about my own username now. "Fayenatic" is meant to be memorable and a slightly humorous tribute to a popular singer, but it's entirely possible that the name contributed to a recent perception/accusation of being fanatical. I might seek RfA in a couple of months; given your recent experience, would you advise me to go for a deed poll, or not worry? - Fayenatic (talk) 15:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mitt Romney[edit]

Hi. You recommended an RfC.[5] So, I just thought I'd mention that we've already tried an RfC.[6] Generally speaking, I think this article could definitely use more eyes watching it, so I'm glad you've taken an interest. Maybe we didn't operate the RfC properly. If you think another RfC might be helpful, I hope you will start one. Anyway, good luck on your RfA.Ferrylodge (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, it looks like you agreeing to the religious background section didn't last more than 24 hours. Huge surprise. Turtlescrubber (talk) 17:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I remember that, that was when you claimed a consensus to get the article unprotected. However, there was no consensus and there article was swiftly reprotected with a version you didn't like. Funny. Can't you ever tell the whole story. Seriously, what is wrong with you? Turtlescrubber (talk) (UTC)

(undent) Turtlescrubber, please see WP:Civility. Thanks.Ferrylodge (talk) 18:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, John. I won't clutter up your talk page with comments unrelated to you. I just felt that Ferrylodge was being a tad bit disingenuous. Turtlescrubber (talk) 18:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on adminship.Ferrylodge (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

E-mail[edit]

Courtesy note: I have sent you an e-mail. Regards. Woody (talk) 22:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But does he ring twice? Out the door, will catch up later. Tvoz |talk 21:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missing locators[edit]

OK I've red linked the templates ready for creating here -see User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Missing locator maps I've begun working my way through them. As always Dutch wikipedia has everything sorted out and has the digits which can be quickly copied. I've begun creating them like Template:Location map Argentina etc. After this we will be able to add an infobox and map locator to any place on the planet. Dutch wikipedia always seems to run more efficiently than us ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 13:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Yes!!!!! I've created maps for all of the places on User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Missing locator maps. This means any article on most countries in the world can have an infobox and exact locator!! E.g see Baku, Sanaa, Aweil, Aného, Simikot. And it works!!! This is major news for world places -now each place can have a map whatever the size!!! I;m so happy about this!! This will affect tens of thousands of geography articles eventually!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've started Wikipedia:WikiProject South America/Bolivia work group but with a project banner. It will need sorting out with assessment categories. Why did you miss out Bolivia before? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome. I would have been willing to help you set up most of the work groups themselves -all you had to do is ask. Its funny but I thought I'd come across the bolivia work group page before - I must have been mistaken, I'v created a banner but when you are ready.

Those locator maps for every country are extremely useful -I began adding some to some of the Honduras stubs earlier. It is shocking how underdeveloped some of these places are. Meanwhile check out the images I've been uploading to Demographics of Eritrea etc. That freedom to use that guy;s images is wonderful. I;ve already uploaded images for Battambang , Kaokoland, did some Somalia and Eritrea ones earlier and am now uploading some Djibouti ones! Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For instance see Barentu, Eritrea. With the combination of a flickr agreement and adding the infbox map it really helps without evne adding much text content. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had a go at creating my own map!! Now see Azul or Buenos Aires etc. I can't believe it works!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whats happening here? - the banner has been created but no content. I'll redirect to the work group for now -thats odd that somebody created the template without a project ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well if a bot can do it then theres no point in me wasting my time and doing so. However it would be a very good idea to create the banners for the new work groups, each one can connect to the main work group pages and regional work group anyway, Each country needs an assessment of its own regardless of work groups though doesn't it like Bolivia etc. Yes Mesoamerica -historical articles can interfere somewhat with modern boundaries. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Might be a good idea to create the banners ready and just place them at the foot of the project pages until they can be put formally into operation -perhaps a note can be made that as yet they are under construction until they can be sirted out. Do you have any list of work group articles which need assessments? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be a very good idea to start the missing banners such as Template:WikiProject Benin ready so that articles can be assessed and coordinated as soon as possible. The thing is if a bot pasted them in the talk pages it can't assess the articles though can it. Why has it taken 7 years for anybody to think about a formal assessment by country??!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm. Not good. The more you look into it - the more you realize how globally disorganized and uneven this project is and the more it needs some serious organization. More people need to get out of the habit of thinking of the world from where they are in it and try to think of it in terms of an encyclopedia which should try to cover places evenly. At least 85% of all geo articles are stubs. I've been browsing over the last few weeks and I'd be surprised if even 5% of the articles on cities and geo locations are up to an acceptable standard. Some cities with populations of 300,000 odd are still one liners and are not even tagged yet! Africa and Latin America are naturally the worst. I'll have to try to figure out about assessments myself then somehow. You;ve got enough on your plate as it is ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Central America would be a good place to start. For example the largest province in Guatemala, the lsrgest city in it Dolores, El Petén - see what I mean -theres thousands like this. Its tagged for central america -all it needs is guatemala-yes but are you certain a seperate banner to give the article some sort of national identify wouldn't be better or at least have the template to show -this article is supported by the Guatemala work group. you know what I mean for example the WP actors reading on the WP Bio banner ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldnt have a problem with the regional banner if it displayed the work group and the national flag on the actual banner itself -e.g this article is supported by the Guatemala/Nicaragua/El Salvador/Honduras etc work group etc. For example see the assessment for Talk:Gyantse. It shows that the article is part of a work group by indicating Tibet on the actual china banner itself. If there is virtually nobody contrbiuting in the group its probably best to keep the reguional banners then but I want to see the work group displayed on the banner. I'll see if MJC Detroit could do somthing for guatemala, nicaragua etc. You never know that may increase traffic to the wrok groups thmselves and generate interest ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something like that displayed on the Central America template etc for the relevant country


This article is supported by the Guatemala work group.

This article is supported by the Nicaragua work group.

♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I've posted a question on your RfA for you to answer. WaltonOne 16:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keilana's RfA[edit]

Sorry for causing confusion with the tally at that RfA – I left a comment and indented wrong, so it reset the count at some point (diff). I've corrected it now. Apologies — alex.muller (talk • edits) 20:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and forgot to mention - good luck with your RfA, though with 120/0/1 and 2 days to go, it doesn't look like you'll need it too much :) — alex.muller (talk • edits) 20:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ComputerGuy890100 RfA[edit]

Hello - noticed you added an oppose after it was removed from WP:RFA, figured I'd let you know. It was untranscluded by Majorly because (as I noted in the discussion section) the candidate did not make any edits to the page around the time of the transclusion, and the user who added it to WP:RFA was the first opposer. I've since closed it per WP:SNOW and so more !votes aren't added while it is not transcluded. Avruchtalk 22:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Micronations[edit]

Please check my talk page. We are discussing editor behavior at Sealand. You'll have a mop soon. I am currently uninvolved and am trying to diffuse a conflict that turned into a request for arbitration that was rejected. Jehochman Talk 19:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the editor involved is keen and means well, but is perhaps a little too attached to the subject to create a strong, neutral article. I attempted to help by giving it a good copyedit and examining the sources, but not much has happened since then. It looks like your interventions have been useful, however.
Talk:Principality_of_Sealand#Sealand-related_articles - There's plenty of Sealand cruft out there, and it's not just in the main article. It's spread throughout articles on the fort, the forts, and on Mr Bates. I'd planned to trawl through it but it was just too much work at the time. --kingboyk (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC) (I don't need a reply unless there's anything you need to say to me personally about it the article talk page is fine)[reply]
Is it just me, or is someone trying to play silly-buggers with us? --Gene_poole (talk) 19:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo[edit]

Any way we can get this deleted? One look at the talk page shows it to be incredibly POV and political, where other groups are held to high standards. Chris (クリス) (talk) 03:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dbachmann[edit]

This arbitration case has now closed and the decision may be found at the link above. Dbachmann is reminded to avoid using his administrative tools in editorial disputes in which he is personally involved, and to avoid misusing the administrative rollback tool for content reversions. Afrocentrism and Race of ancient Egyptians are placed on article probation. For the arbitration committee, David Mestel(Talk) 20:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations![edit]

I know that a 'crat hasn't closed it quite yet, but it is time and I'm heading offline for a couple hours. John, congratulations on your successful RfA. I do believe that that is what is known as a ridiculous landslide, and it places you well up on the WP:100 list - and unanimous at that (I don't really take Gurch's neutrals as serious on RfA)! I think it merely shows what I and others have been saying - you are extremely well suited for the mop and bucket - which I am pleased to give you. You certainly deserve the support given to you in this RfA.

There is a great essay with WP:AFNN. The see also section on that page also has great resources, including the New Admin School, the Reading List, and the How-to-guide. At the end of the day, of course, everyone uses the tools differently, and finds different ways to pitch in and help out. I have no doubt that you will find your niche as an admin, and the ways that you can best use your new tools to help the encyclopedia. If there is anything I can do to help, any questions I can answer, or if you just want to talk through your new admin tools, just drop me a note. I don't have email enabled at the moment (connects to my real-world identity), but I will send you a note so that you ahve the address. Again, congrats! Pastordavid (talk) 20:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's been closed! Congrats! D.M.N. (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! Addhoc (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:
  1. Remember you will always protect the wrong version.
  2. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5)
  3. Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll.
  4. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block.
  5. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology.
  6. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able.
KillerChihuahua?!?
DISCLAIMER: This humor does not reflect the official humor of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, or Jimbo Wales. All rights released under GFDL.

You are now an administrator[edit]

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 21:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can help out at CSD right now! There's a really big backlog! :) And you've got an email aswell :P Rudget. 21:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
*issues post-RfA congratulatory message* On second thoughts...

Some advice![edit]

Congratulations on your recent acquisition of the mop. I offer to you a few words of wisdom:

  • Start slowly and carefully. There's a huge temptation to start flying through your new duties as soon as the 'crat pushes the button - resist it. Avoid close calls for your first week or two, and leave it to those who happened to get their tools a little earlier than you.
  • Be sure to connect in with other users on IRC, if you can. There's a whole pool of channels there where you can get assistance in your newly-acquired buttons, and get your new colleagues used to your name.
  • Be ready for criticism in your first few weeks, but at the same time don't be a push-over. If you feel worried over a decision, get another user to take a look at it.
  • When blocking, ask yourself if everything you've entered into that form will benefit Wikipedia: is the block length sufficiently long to prevent further disruption by a vandal, or is it so long that it will put them off ever returning? Is your protection just going to be a minor hiccup in the edit warrior's grand scheme of disruption, or will it hinder the growth of the encyclopedia?

Best of luck with your new buttons, and don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any queries.

Anthøny 21:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations!

Your're now an admin? Wow that was quick but I;m not surprised. Congratulations and thanks for the card (please don't behead me though lol) I;ve never seen such a turn out -there never seems to actually be that many people around!! If you had desired adminship I would have nominated you over a year ago but I thought you had turned it down like me. There are many positive advantages to being an admin as well as some difficulties lying ahead, you as much as anybody seem equipped to deal with them. Well deserved anyway. All the best!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 23:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Welcome on board - you will do well. Agathoclea (talk) 00:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome... now you're in for it!!! :) Jmlk17 02:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if this is a bit late. Congratulations, well deserved, and I hope we can work together some time. ++Lar: t/c 22:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA thanks card[edit]

Hi. You recently put an RfA thanks card on my talk page. I appreciate it, however, its formatting seems to have changed the font color and size of everything below it. I fixed a few html errors in the thanks card, however it didn't fix it. If you know of some way to correct this, It'd be appreciated. Thanks. Timmeh! 23:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

goodbye[edit]

Because of overzealous attacks against me by Jehochman, I will no longer be editing the three articles that I was working towards FA status nor Congo articles. Jehochman went on a rampage RFCU. His RFCU claims were disproven and according to another user, he lied about the category.

WP:SOCK#LEGIT allows multiple accounts for segregation and security. The multiple accounts edited separate articles.

A multiple account was necessary because of the controversial nature of User:Profg. Editing about him would bring stalkers to the 3 FA contenders. Edits about User:Profg were never meant to defend him but to point out things that the community was overlooking. The community shouldn’t overlook everything that a user says simply because he is bad. One member of the community said he was seeking a ban just to make it easier to accuse others. These is a diabolical scheme.

What good does is exposing User:HappyBirthdayClubMember? That’s like exposing the identity of Santa Claus. Congolese fufu (talk) 02:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you won't leave. If you are concerned about User:Profg creating disruption, we can deal with that problem directly. As for the overzealous attacks, there was a finding by Alison. I suggest you email User:Alison to discuss, and hopefully she can help you. Jehochman Talk 03:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Thanks[edit]

Hi (Warlord no more) John Carter - thanks for your participation in my request for adminship. It passed 52/0/0, and I'm now in possession of a shiny new mop, and honoured to join you in the admin class of January 2008 (okay, so you're at the head of the class with your honour roll, but I'm out to prove that the slacker in the back who never opens his books can do some good too). If I can ever help you with anything, please don't hesitate to contact me. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 09:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rudget![edit]

Dear John Carter, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget. 16:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Well Done[edit]

Well done on your RfA, sure you are the right person for the task. Good Luck with your new toy. // F9T 16:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About your RfA[edit]

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 17:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! Acalamari 17:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Invitation[edit]

I'd like to invite you to join the Christian Music WikiProject. We are currently looking for new members. With your help we can make it one of the best WikiProjects. Remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Absolon S. Kent (talk) 15:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


LOL![edit]

The Barnstar of Good Humor
I come to cheer you on after reading the Wikipedia Signpost, where ais523's technology report says your rename to "John Carter" shut down the server for 10 minutes because 75,000 edits had to be reattributed. Wow! I laugh in admiration... Shalom (Hello • Peace) 06:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. It's obvious that this hiccup was completely unintended by you and probably also by the bureaucrat. But you don't have to put that in the barnstar comment. :) Shalom (Hello • Peace) 06:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Preity Zinta[edit]

Please see Talk:Preity Zinta, I gave my thoughts on how the article in its present state stacks up against the GA Review Criteria. I'd imagine I probably made the job of whoever will do the actual GA Review a bit easier. Cirt (talk) 08:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Hello John!
Tell me please, seeing Cirt's comments on the talk page, there isn't anything wrong with the article, right? Shahid • Talk2me 15:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for everything, friend! In my opinion, without a bias, it's a great article and definitely deserves a FA status. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 15:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you;ve seen the 100,000 news. This is a good week for us I think!! The criteria people are placing on the Zinta article is pretty demanding though!! Anyway I've just created Template:Districts of Mozambique -I;d suggest a similar template is done for most of the African and Latin American countries -as I feel this is a good way to begin covering the countries geographically and then attempt to build upon this. Any idea when you'll get around to task forcing the African template? Its just theres a lot needs tagging for Mozambique etc ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Righty-o then. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 15:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sheeks! That template look rather tall rendered in "mono" standard setting I just looked I didn't realise. Have a look at it in cologne blue -it looks much better - I 99% of the time use colgne blue which I think makes it look more attractive. It should be OK though. What do you think of it? Anyway I've set up all the districts of Mozambique now. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA[edit]

My request for adminship was successful at 64/1/2! Many thanks for your participation and I will endeavor to meet your expectations. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of request for deletion of editor John Carter :)[edit]

John Carter, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#John Carter and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :).

Congratulations[edit]

I've been busy with school work over the past few days so sorry if this is a tinsy bit late. I'd like to congratulate on your succesful RFA, and the fact that you got ove 140 supports. Congratulations!.--Phoenix-wiki 20:20, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats[edit]

Hey John, congrats on your resoundingly successful RFA. I'm just surprised you weren't an admin already! You are one of our best editors, you definitely deserve the mop and bucket.--Cúchullain t/c 21:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: RFA?[edit]

Hey, thanks for the offer, but I'm afraid I'll have to decline for now. I'm planning to go sometime in April when I'll have a better chance of passing. You can co-nominate then if you like. :)--Phoenix-wiki 22:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidelete[edit]

Thank you for your insight into the subject. One of the reasons i'm proposing this because I don't think there is enough intellectual rigour in the arguments currently for AFD (I can be accused of this sometimes too, i'm human, I get lazy!). On the other hand, i'm honestly of the opinion that we have too many rubbish articles, with the only solution being a sustained cull of said articles. If editors go away because one of their crappy articles doesn't belong here, I don't care, they'd probably leave soon anyway if their interest is that paper thin! As to losing content, I don't think you have a point, deletion is a simple thing, we delete things that are not required here because their content isn't valuable, those would be the articles deleted.
On the other hand, the other idea I entertained was an AFD focus workgroup made up of inclusionists, deletionists, mergists, etc... to provide a much more focused article improvement drive so worthy articles don't goto AFD, and the ones that do go AFD are pretty non-controversial. This however I think would prove even more unworkable than Wikidelete, what do you think? -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 00:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Mexico banners[edit]

Hi there John. As I noted here there have been a number of "false positives" arising from the recent project-banner tagging exercise, that I believe you have been helping out with. Not a big deal, but it may require some tidying-up afterwards to keep that project's scope in a reasonable focus. Was wondering whether you had any plans or comments to that effect? Cheers,--cjllw ʘ TALK 00:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vatican City category[edit]

I see you have been putting several religious articles into a "Vatican City" category. These matters surely don't concern the Vatican City State. They concern instead the Holy See and the Roman Catholic Church in the same way today as before 1929, when the State of Vatican City first came into existence. If the State of Vatican City disappeared tomorrow, these matters would not cease to exist or become less important, since they concern the state in question only as they concern other states, such as Spain or Poland. Lima (talk) 08:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. "An official document by an official head of state generally does" (fall within the category of a document of that state). If a head of state who is also, since even before becoming head of state, the head of an international association of beekeepers makes a statement about the beekeepers' association's business precisely as head of the association, is that declaration a document of the state of which he is head? Lima (talk) 16:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do not agree that "religion is, effectively, almost the sole real business of the state in question". The real business of the state in question, by which it manages to balance its budget, are matters like the sale of stamps and entrance tickets to the Museums. Its budget is quite separate from that of the Holy See. That, I think, could not be said of the Papal States, but things are much clearer now. The state issues no declarations whatever on religion: it is not even responsible for the upkeep of St Peter's Basilica, which in the Annuario Pontificio is put under "Institutions linked with the Holy See", not in the Vatican City State section. See also Roman Curia for the government of the Holy See, quite distinct from the government of the state, dealt with in Vatican City. The article Politics of the Vatican City confuses the two entities: someone ought to fix that, but I do not feel up to doing it myself just now. I think I will, however, avail myself of your permission to undo the two (I think) articles where I noticed that you had classified Holy See matters as Vatican City matters. Lima (talk) 17:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"You know more about the internal workings of the Vatican relative to the Holy See than I do." I would put it the other way round: "the workings of the Holy See relative to the mini-statelet". "Vatican" is a horribly ambiguous term. The Holy See is quite obviously not a department of the "Vatican" in the sense of the 1929-founded state. Lima (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

idea?[edit]

Let's form a small RFA class of 9. These are admin who became admin at about the same time. John Carter, Jeepday, Rudget, Jayron32, Archtransit, Appraiser, Kbthompson, Canley, J-stan. It would just be a friendly support group or like a school class. No administrative tasks needed to form this group, just know each other so if we need an opinion or want to discuss something, we'll be there for each other. Archtransit (talk) 19:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

African template[edit]

I can see you are too busy to comment there. Great progess on the African wiki projects -why the sudden change of name from work group though? - I prefer to shortened name anyway but it is quite a bold step to make. I've been developing articles on cities and districts in Africa- some of them such as Abidjan are actually quite well developed but most of the country is missing. Do you know when the parameters will be fixed?. If I tag an article as AfricaProject|class=stub|ghana=yes this should eventually show up when you fix the tenplate? I take it after the last discussion you intend add it to the main Africa template -all 45 of them? Shouldn't the template be WikiProject Africa rather than Africa Project though? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats good work, but I must admit while I am all for keeping projects interdependent I don't see what difference it makes to have a seperate banners and just have it feeding into the main Africa project categories. If there are one or two work groups I think it is fine to use one, but when there are around 56 different projects under Africa alone plus all sorts of potential related wiki rpojects that could appear in the future, it would seem to make the main Africa banner rather laden with task forces don't you think? Most people in taggin articles would be tagging them as WikiProject Malawi|class=stub or something. Even if they added WikiProject Africa|class=stub it wouldn't show because the Africa template has to avoid consistency and is named AfricaProject. Anyway I;ve think you;ve done a great job on setting it up. If it is easier to use one banner this is fine, but I;d rather the work groups were fixed onto the templates rather than hidden . ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats a good point though - for features like rivers where they may be in a high number of wikiprojects then one regional template would indeed seem more valid I didn't think of that. The most important thing is that all of the countries have work groups and assessments conducted on all of the articles and that they are are organized, which I believe you have set about doing successfully. I;m just trying to think long term what the best solution would be and whether it is a good thing to have what will potentially be perhaps hundreds of thousands of articles in the future feeding off one banner. What about the stray projects like Sudan, Algeria etc which at present have seperate banners. Shouldn't they be merged into the main manner? Wouldn't this be easier if they were all merged or all split -it should either be one or the other I think. I guess if a bot can do most of the tagging anyway then it isn't a major concern I just want to ensure that we are consistent and organized. Meanwhile I;ve decided to go all extra terrestrial. Have a look at my new article Tohil Mons. An alternative home? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You ought to put the algeria, sudan, libya, egypt , south africa etc templates up for deletion and merge them then to be consistent if we are going to use the Africa banner. Whats your next move, set up the categories for each of the countries Africa? I can give you a hand with that later. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats good. I'll leave those to you -I;ll set up creating the categories for all of the new Africa projects then. I'll work through the A-Z of African countries ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC) To have work groups on islands such as Saint Helena would really we covering it all but I don't see why not - I;d imagine there would be enough potential articles to go on. By spanish africa I take it you mean Western Sahara -which I never know if it is part of Morocco or not -its not official these days is it, but there seems to be enough indifference to mark it as seperate. The existing seperate banners can be left until later, -I thought there were more than five. I'll make a start then ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I see. I did some work on some Lanzarote articles a few days ago and noticed that the Canary Islands are under WP:Spain. They should be a part of both Spain and Spanish Africa groups I think ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would make more sense certainly - kill two birds with one stone so to speak. Saludos ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To begin with what should be the parent category for a country such as Benin. Should it be Category:Benin work group or Category:WikiProject Benin? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be more inclined to change it to Category:WikiProject Benin to match the project page I think. Category:Benin articles sounds right which you;ve prepared ready but the main category needs changing in coordination with the name change I think. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing is if you tag a page like Talk:Abomey-Calavi it reads as Category:WikiProject Benin articles., SHould this be just Category:Benin articles? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For instance the category which all of the country articles go in for Sudan is Category:WikiProject Sudan articles rather than Category:Sudan articles. Shouldn't Libya be Category:WikiProject Libya articles rather than Category:Libya articles ? and then e.g Category:Libya articles by importance etc? Mmm, looks as if those categories will have to be deleted in accordance to the latest developments. Category:Libya articles would have to be moved to Category:WikiProject Libya articles to meet it? Wow this is heavy stuff isn't it! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John I;ve done Benin, but we need to think about changing the redundant category Category:WikiProject Africa work groups. As it is we are cateogrizing e.g WikiProject Burundi in Category:WikiProject Africa. When all of the 50 odd porjects are set up this africa category will be bloated. I'd suggest putting all of the main project categories e.g Category:WikiProject Burundi in a category named Category:WikiProject Africa projects. When this is done we can delete the work group cats. OK ? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. If then you could categorize the main project categories like this now and index them so they go in alphabetical order this will make things more tidy and in order later. I'll do Angola next ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


e.g Djibouti under D ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that would be a funny one. Can't imagine it would gain hundreds of members somehow. I;m impressed you are serious about covering all these islands though. I'd imagine Tahiti would be a part of france or polynesia work group? - one of my tahiti stubs is ucrrently up for the chop -a 1330m metre mountain -the second highest in polynesia is up for afd. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Toward Peer Review[edit]

Hi John. I'm trying to get Gospel of Mark ready for peer review as the next step to take it to GAC, and I could use some help tracking down literature citations. Could you ask some folks from the appropriate Wiki Projects to help out? BTW, congratulations on your new adminship! Ovadyah (talk) 16:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Really regret bothering you with this[edit]

{{Africa/Categories}} isn't set up right. It seems to just be a copy of {{Africa/Class}}, and won't actually generate the categories you need. Kirill 21:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Thank you. Now to create all the categories. John Carter (talk) 21:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Van Patrick GAN[edit]

Just to let you know I moved this to Literature, as it appears to be a comic book character, rather than a film/theatre/drama character. Hope that's okay. Geometry guy 22:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, don't forget that you should still make the final decision on what to do with the article and, if you decide to fail it, you should remove it from the WP:GAN list. Cheers, CP 04:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kiribati portal[edit]

I just made a Kiribati "portal". Are you interested? --Henry W. Schmitt (talk) 08:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Banner proposal[edit]

I've made a proposal regarding project banners at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject reform#Single Banner?. Some of it relates to technical matters I don unnerstand. Any input you might have, particularly regarding those matters, would be greatly appreciated. John Carter (talk) 18:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied there.--Phoenix-wiki 18:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Banner proposal[edit]

I've made a proposal regarding project banners at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject reform#Single Banner?. Some of it relates to technical matters I don unnerstand. Any input you might have, particularly regarding those matters, would be greatly appreciated. John Carter (talk) 18:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied there.--Phoenix-wiki 18:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deprecation message[edit]

I see you have already replaced all uses of the old template, but if you have to do it for another template, the best code to use is <center><small>Template depreciated, please use {{tlx|AfricaProject |class{{=}}'''{{{class| }}}'''|importance{{=}}'''{{{importance| }}}'''|'''Libya{{=}}yes'''}} instead</small></center>. That will automatically add each article's existing class and importance assessments to the replacement notice. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No it's not. The correct spelling is "deprecated". The fullstop should come before the closing center and small and tt tags, or it creates extra whitespace. What a mess! --kingboyk (talk) 18:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Africa Project[edit]

Hi, John... Are we ok to start tagging Africa articles with the relevant country projects now? --BelovedFreak 20:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I will get started on some Tanzania articles. --BelovedFreak 21:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Africa/Categories[edit]

Small change, preferring, for example: Category:WikiProject Chad articles to Category:Chad articles, since the former is the usual convention. -- Prove It (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also the Category:Disambig-Class articles ... since thats what all the others do. -- Prove It (talk) 20:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder/request/congratulatory note/memo/suggestion/[insert a word of your choice][edit]

Hello! Congratulations on your recent administratorship; had I known that you were a candidate, I should have voted for you (which is a great honour, as I have never opened an RfA page in my life). I should also like to congratulate you on your name change; you are now officially Mr John Carter, and I can accurately refer to you thus (and I also know why you have "tied up the servers"—read it in the Signpost—few people can claim to have had such treatment!).

To business now. I am here not because of something regarding the Council, but because of the situation in WikiProject Succession Box Standardization. Alas, I have to be a little pressing at times, no matter how much I might hate myself for it. The problem is that participation in WikiProjects is on a purely voluntary basis, so it is both highly impolite and extremely insensitive for me to be taking such steps, but... Well, call me eccentric and it's settled (I hope).

Now, there is, as always, a severe activity deficiency in SBS—too much to do, and nobody to do it. Perhaps you have not participated enough to know this, but take my word for it: the problem is a chronic one. I am not as much concerned about the editing progress, as this is supposed to be done by all editors. No, I am more worried about the guidelines and the templates, where there are still many things to be taken care of, numerous holes to be closed, countless loose ends to be tied up, immeasurable improvements to be made. In four words: decisions to be made. All I am asking for is a helping hand once in a while: add the SBS page to your watchlist (if you have not done so until now), and vote in the polls; as the majority of the proposals are rather uncontroversial, polls usually suffice for business to move on. If, of course, there are disagreements (not common, as succession boxes are rather straightforward), more discussion can take place, until consensus is reached in the good old Wikipedia way. The fact is that the entire process will not take up more than a few minutes of your no doubt valuable time in any given day—and it is a rare event indeed to see more than two or three proposals submitted in a week. Actually, that speed would be ideal, as things right now move at much slower rates.

If we are to note any progress, we need participation. If you are interested enough to have signed up, I am not asking for much, am I? After all, aren't we all here because we are trying to make a difference? Waltham, The Duke of 21:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: You probably know that hard spaces are required in many cases by the Manual of Style, but most editors seem to ignore them entirely. There is an initiative attempting to change this situation; click here if you are interested. – Waltham

Philip Greenspun project[edit]

The Philip Greenspun illustration project might be of interest to you. It's a project that'll create diagrams of anything you like. You can requst diagrams here. The finished diagrams will be similar to Image:Tugboat diagram-en.svg and the diagrams on List of sex positions (Sorry, but I couldn't find any other images of this style :-)). Anyway, if you need diagrams go there.-Phoenix-wiki 22:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Africa projects[edit]

OK John I've corrected all of the principal categories. I'm uncertian what you want to do with the small island projects which are still work groups of Africa so I changed it so these islands feed into the recently created Category:WikiProject Africa projects. I've started several of country categories but I'll have to log out in a minute or too. OK? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email re Sealand[edit]

My email is working fine. --Gene_poole (talk) 21:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

National Scout Association of Eritrea[edit]

John, I have worked with you for a long while, and I believe you to be doing this in good faith, but without explanation, you're now violating 3RR. Please post your reasoning for your reversions from Eritrea Project (a working project not marked as inactive) to Africa Project (where your tag doesn't make it show up as a task force or anything). Thank you! Chris (クリス) (talk) 01:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My objection is that it does not show that anything on the template itself. If you add "Girl Guides=yes" to the Scouting template, a logo pops up. If you add "Somali=yes" to the Arabic template, a Somali flag pops up. Changing to the generic template as you have, nothing pops up unique to show that it is really supported. Chris (クリス) (talk) 01:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Scientology/Intro[edit]

Thanks. Do you still have some of these portal pages on your watchlist? If so, thank you. Hehe, at least someone is noticing the portal. Cirt (talk) 01:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Invitation[edit]

Hello. You may have seen that some Wikipedia articles lack sources to given dates, timelines and chronologies.
If you feel that you could like to help in making all articles more reliable and well sourced in this regard, we would like to encourage you to use, as part of your daily editing and when {{fact}} is not enough for requesting clearly and specifically a citation or source for dates, timeline or chronology, the following inline tag:

{{Timefact}} displays {chronology source needed} for requesting timelines, dates and chronology sources. Click here for more information


At WP Timeline Tracer, we thank you for using these tools and for helping to make Wikipedia articles more accurate and reliable.

Daoken 10:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

WP Africa and other things[edit]

Hi John, a few things:

  • I posted above about the "deprecated template" notice, just in case you didn't notice
  • Are you sending out a bot to replace the deprecated templates with the new template and parameters? Is anybody doing it already?
  • Could you please forward me a copy of the Sealand email?

--kingboyk (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John you need to add Ghana to the Africa template, delete the old banner and add and create the assessment categories - See Talk:Sekondi-Takoradi. Its missing ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 14:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FA Nomination[edit]

I thought you might like to know that Liturgical calendar (Lutheran), an article within the scope of WikiProject Lutheranism, is now a Featured Articel Candidate. Please express your opinion. -- jackturner3 (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Newxmen125.jpg[edit]

Hey, I came through the Comics Wikiproject to find someone who has experience with the fair use rationales of comic book images. Would you mind seeing if you can add an acceptable rationale to this? The uploader is quite ridiculously swamped. --Kizor 00:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

Hi I just wanna ask you for some advice, let me explain, recently I have looking for sources for Panama City, I`m working in the Cental America Project, and I have been citing some info, but there is an user that states that some (a few) of my references are wrong, I just cite as sources serious magazines, web pages and newspapers. So I don`t understand why he saids that certain references are wrong, anyway, the real problem is that instead changing the references or erase it, he or she just erase the whole section without care if the info the erase is actually true. I don`t have any problem if someone tell that my references are wrong, but I think that he should not erase the whole section especially if that section is actually kind of large. So I want to ask you if it right to erase a whole section just because some references maybe are wrong (I don`t know why they could be wrong, but if they are i will just look for better references). And if just have time could you check the Panama City references and give you opinior if they are wrong or not. Some refereces are in spanish as for example the City offficial page, but doesn`t mean that it is wrong, true? thanks Nando Cdl (talk) 04:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey[edit]

Are you an administrator now?:)

First of all, congrats!!

Secondly, sorry for not having supported your RFA; I was not aware of it. Only now I've seen a message of yours on Blofeld's talk page.

I'm sure you will be a great admin:)

Again, congrats... Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 13:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bolivia[edit]

I've done a lot of work on Africa over the last few days -I;ve tagged a number of Uganda articles. I'll try to maek a strong effort to help with the tagging this week. Meanwhile I;ve just added a full list of Municipalities of Bolivia ready for starting and gained us a new Bolivian project member. These all need to be started and provincial templates built. Entire provinces are still missing in rural Bolivia which we want to cover completely. There are also thousands of cantons whihc are at an evne lower level than municipios but firdt things first. Using existing maps it should be possible to create a set up locator maps for all the municipalities but this would take some time. I think the best thing is to combine the municio articles with the relevant city article for starters and then as it develops they could later be seperated. Are you pleased with these ideas? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All places are inherently notable I believe. Any reason why they shouldn't be? No different to any of the thousands of municipal articles we have in Europe , just a country that most people in the world known frightfully little about. I want to change this. Remember that these covers the major towns in the country and the area around them. Didn't get any problems with Burma - this should OK I think. Anyway I'll set about creating a template for the Beni Department ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ye have little faith in me. I;m also going to merge Category:Cities in Bolivia with Category:Villages in Bolivia and merge them into Category:Cities, towns and villages in Bolivia. Once it grows perhaps at a later date they can be organized by department.region like Burma but we have to build it first. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've merged them. Do you honestly think that the portions of this aren't worth an entry? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing wrong with articles like San Borja, Bolivia. The map and infobox and references seem to assert some kind of notability. I created that map earlier. If one line geo stubs get the green light and articles like this don't I;d be very surprised. But then you get all sorts of people trying to delete things don't you, I know what you mean - Bill Clinton will be down the afd soon. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next step will be to search flickr and try to make some more agreements -I;ve already asked a Bolivian traveller for permission. I tell you what though its tricky when there are about 60 odd places with the same name!!! Have you seen articles like Akwidaa -created using the map and flickr images I got hold of. Just think how many places like this are missing ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the awkward thing is when they are 5 or 6 places with that name in the same province let alone the country or the world!! I strongly believe that eventually it will become possible to get places on here you or I never knew existed and will have full info and pictures to boot. This is what I believe makes wikipedia that extra bit special I think and I want to see complete world coverage on here of all these weird and wonderful places. Your work towards setting up these country wikiprojects is the first step towards achieving this of which I am very grateful of all you do. I'm certain you agree with me and my ideas. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this[edit]

Hey John.

Gabriel began by inserting this. At this point, I hadn't noticed the changes, but when this was introduced, I took notice of the problem: the additions are essentially original research as they are implied to argue against the Trinity. Again, it is clear that, without a source, OR applies- it is essentially the editor alone that is making this interpretations/implications (even if the text is given as-is, it is still suggested to support something). Recall, again, that primary sources require secondary sources to perform any manner of interpretation.

Additionally, Gabriel immediately broke AGF (although he may have been unaware of the policy, which I explained to him) when he began accusing my reversions as being "trinitarian sabotage" and he called me a "desperate trinitarian". Interestingly, his justification for the latter was that he didn't know me, but all trinitarians seem desperate to him. Additionally, he simply copy-pasted the warnings I pasted on his page (AGF and NPA) and placed them on my page, misusing templates. He appears to believe that my removal of his additions constitutes a break in AGF.

He has attempted to improve the poor phrasing of his addition, but he has made no attempt to provide or even acknowledge the necessity of a source, which I have been requesting repeatedly. His justification for inclusion is that the interpretation is "self-evident", and however, when I site a valid secondary source interpretation (St. John Chrysostom), he disregards it and calls it nonsensical. I have tried to explain to him that, ideally, there would be no biblical citations without sources chosen to support their interpretation implied in the article. As it as, however, the fact that the rest of the additions are poorly sourced does not justify the perpetuation of this problem.--C.Logan (talk) 22:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
excuse my intrusion:
C.logan: I believe one of the "secondary references" you have been asking for is here, but I will have to dig for it later.
If you feel so inclinde you might sift for it yourself. I will later when I have time if you don't anyway:
http://www.watchtower.org/e/archives/index.htm#jesus_christ
(subsection won't linkup, but it is called "Should you believe in the Trinity."
GabrielVelasquez (talk) 06:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking through it now- I haven't yet found the verse in question (I might have overlooked it), but I'll use the search engine and see if it turns up in another article. I'm pretty sure that this source is okay. John and I have been asking for a source which either uses the verse in such a manner or which notes that nontrinitarians use the verse in such a manner.
On a side note, some of the information here is a little iffy. The argument against Colwell (and concerning John 1:1) is hardly convincing, because it misquotes Colwell and doesn't quite explain his study to a sufficient extent (it also neglects to mention that Colwell himself cited 1:1 as an example in which the rule does, indeed, apply). This, however, is no big deal.
My main concern is with the deceptive misquoting of the Church fathers. When I read quotes, I always check the source, because more often than not sites which attempt to denounce an opposing view (such as theosophists) usually interpret a quote favorably. Justin Martyr is cited as saying something very out of character, and when searching the quote, I found that he is indeed misquoted- there are actually many sites devoted to responding to the misquotations made in this tract, such as this and this (I prefer the layout of the former).
In any case, I've found the reference, and I think it's fair enough. The specific page is here. John, do you agree that this reference should be sufficient for the verse in question?--C.Logan (talk) 09:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email[edit]

Hi John. I'm not sure what the problem with my email is supposed to be. It's a POP account that I've been using for over 5 years. Email me at [email protected].

I'm also not sure what the CIA factbook info on Sealand is supposed to mean. Is this valid data actually in the legitimate CIA factbook, or a simulation that someone else has created? --Gene_poole (talk) 22:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I received the Sealand email - thanks. Frankly, I think it's a pretty strange communication which fails to provide any real clarification.
If the CIA factbook data is merely an unpublished submission, can we still make use of it? As far as I'm aware Sealand is not listed in the CIA factbook. --Gene_poole (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More South America[edit]

Mmm. Should the South American template be altered like Africa for Talk:San Borja, Bolivia? Anyway I've sorted out the Wiki South Africa projects -now we need to add the parameters. I dare say you have this is mind - I can see you have your hands full at present. I hope I've done the right thing creating Category:WikiProject South America projects

I'll be creating templates like this:

♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thats a problem I identified. When tagging Uganda some articles I thought were top importance for that country seemed silly as top importance for africa when they were nearer mid importance for the continent as a whole ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 23:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

European history categories[edit]

I'm stunned you actually put the above list together, knowing how much effort they can be. But you might want to review some of the categories. Not all the people in Category:Competitors at the 1920 Summer Olympics are really necessarily relevant to either Belgium or European history, for instance, and the ones that are could probably be found in other categories as well. John Carter (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • John this was just an initial go at getting a list together. All I did was implement <categorytree>History of Europe</categorytree> and leave it at that. I agree, many of the categories are not fully included and some may not be included at all. See the similar start on WP:WikiProject Agriculture/Categories. I've posted a note on WT:WikiProject Agriculture regarding the need for assistance turning this into a list of actual categories that are fully within our scope. It was your post of the new User:SatyrBot that got me going on this. But it isn't any work. I just followed User:SatyrTN's instructions. The recommendation from Satyr is to copy and paste the text created by the tree. I haven't even gotten around to fully expanding the tree yet though. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: User talk:GabrielVelasquez[edit]

I just finished reading through that; I support your rationale and explanation, though I'm not quite sure why the user is so vehemently convinced that you're biased. I'll try to explain to them calmly about how to present evidence. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 00:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 00:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Scientology[edit]

I mentioned you in the latest section on the talk page, regarding Attica42 (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 02:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Modern browser[edit]

HI John have you checked out the new preference. Try out the new modern option in your preferences -it makes this site look awesome. Also have a peek at my new article Cinema of Kenya ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 16:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Set Nominations/Olympic events[edit]

In view of section 2.5 of [7], in which the Olympic Committee have decided that "mind sports" (specifically mentioning bridge and chess) will not be admitted as Olympic events, I don't think that contract bridge belongs in the list. JH (talk page) 18:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose it depends on what is meant by a "recognized" sport. The IOC has said that they recognize bridge's governing body, but will not include bridge in the Olympics because they don't consider that it meets the normal definition of a sport as something involving physical activity. So whether or not that makes it a recognized sport I'm not sure. However the title of your list includes "Olympic events", which bridge is not. I'm prepared to abide by whatever decision you come to, but would suggest at least renaming the list to say "sports recognized by the IOC" rather than "Olympic events". JH (talk page) 19:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Semester, New Appeal[edit]

This semester I am teaching academic writing to a group of teachers at my school. This course starts on Monday Jan 28. I would like to know if you are still interesting in "mentoring". You can see the syllabus at Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/SyllabusIf so, please leave a message on my talk page and update the mentor's page Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Mentors, if . If not, please remove your name and information from that page. Thanks! Thelmadatter (talk) 20:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Panama City[edit]

Thanks for you comments at Panama City Page, I wanna ask you if you can verify the references from the urban problems section and give your opinion if they ar aceptable sources. Thanks. Nando Cdl (talk) 22:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Set Nominations/Olympic events again[edit]

Hello. I noticed you tagged some article talk pages about cycling recently. I wanted to improve the tagging but I don't really understand the system so I hope you don't mind me posting here. With Olympic events, I think road bicycle racing should be used instead of road cycling, which is an article about you or me cycling down the road. Similarly, BMX racing should perhaps be used over BMX. Also, to complete the cycling disciplines held at the Olympics is mountain bike racing, which wasn't tagged at all. I hope this helps. SeveroTC 22:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, FYI I've retagged them as follows:
Old New
Mountain biking Mountain bike racing
Road cycling Road bicycle racing
BMX BMX racing
I've also amended Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations/Set Nominations/Sports recognized by the IOC. Regards, SeveroTC 13:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Africa/Madeira work group[edit]

Hi, John. I'm afraid I do not understand what is the purpose of this wikiproject and how is it related with Africa. Madeira is a small Portuguese island as you surely know. Maybe you can explain me the reasoning behind this association with Africa.--Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves talk / contribs (join WP:PT) 04:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John do you think you could sort out your sandbox -it currently lists in all of the african project assessment categories thankyou ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 12:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was actually supposed to, as that was how I knew which categories to fill. I'll remove the assessments now. John Carter (talk) 14:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WikiProject South Africa Assesments[edit]

Could you take a look at {{Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/South Africa articles by quality statistics}}. The table on the project page is not reporting properly. Please note, it appears that the project's banner has been deprecated in favor of a parameter on the WikiProject Africa banner. Thanks.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC) (please reply on the Project's talk page, thanks)--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProjects[edit]

Are you sure that there's going to be any interest in Wikipedia:WikiProject Guinea and so on? I thought the purpose of WikiProject Africa was that it might attract enough editors interested in African topics to become viable, while most individual countries wouldn't (with a few exceptions). What benefit is there in several projects without much interest? Picaroon (t) 00:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. In that case, could you please integrate {{WikiProject Nigeria}} with the other West African banners? I don't know how to do that without losing some of the nonstandard content I've added to it over the months. For example, on Talk:Fula language. Picaroon (t) 23:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, this page takes forever to load. Maybe waiting 30 days for archiving is a bit long? :-) Picaroon (t) 23:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Technical question[edit]

Hey John, do you have any insight into the question I raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion/Unitarian Universalism work group#Tagging work group articles - technical question? Aleta (Sing) 21:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating all that, John! When you have time, would you mind adding a category for list-class UU articles? (Right now they show up in the unassessed-class category.) Aleta (Sing) 00:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ottrott[edit]

John. You see any reason to keep a prod tag on Ottrott now that I've expanded it a little. I'm afraid another editor took rather offensively to the name and tagged it. Looks fine to me. This user has threatened to get me sacked by an admin lol ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 00:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John. Any idea when you are going to sort the south america banners? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats good. I've done some work on Angolan cities today -basically I am going to go through all of the existing city articles by country in Africa and Latin America and ensure they have an infobox and locator (and assessing them at the same time). Like some other countries I've merged categories into Cities, towns and villages and will be doing this for most places. I've been trying to draw up a Chilean locator map but it is very difficult to do. As you have been doing Antarctica I've managed to do something on the opposite pole and draw a locator for Greenland which is very useful. Image:Greenlandlocatormap.png. I'll add some infoboxes to Greenland now, but if you could get the South American banner sorted over the next few days this would be great. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 19:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've created a Chilean locator map but as expected it is rather lanky. See Osorno, Chile. Does this look OK to you? Please let me know -its very awkward due to the very unusual shape of the country ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm 80px is about right I think. Thats the optimimum size I think ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It never ceases to shock me how bad most of these articles really are!!! Going through the Chilean cities very few are tagged or have decent content. I believe a merged Chile banner with South America would be best. There appears to be a large number of WP:Chile members but like with so many of the projects they don't seem to take tagging them and developing them seriously ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be best. Many of the articles appear to be written by Chileans -you can tell some of them aren't written by fluent english speakers. I have begun simplifying the categories anyway -they can be tagged later. The more you browse through categories the more you realise how much work really needs doing. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See what I mean ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heres a classic "The area is often likened to an oasis and is lush. It has abundance of wind" Groan groan. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Braun[edit]

Tx! How do we push this along?--Epeefleche (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


More on Chile[edit]

John maybe this isn't a good time for you but I'm just a little confused at your revertion of the South American project categories I created and your intention to create new Category:Chile articles rather than Category:WikiProject Chile articles. I know you want to merge the banners but why have you created different name categories than Africa? Is it necessary to do this?. Also why are African projects such as Sao Tome ,WikiProjects and the South American ones moved back to work categories? Its just I want to see some standardisation and it seems odd that south america and south east asia are called task forces or work groups and africa named as wikiprojects. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 11:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any thoughts? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I see how it can be a difficult one to decide. I like you would rather they were all WikiProjects but it does depend on the circumstances. Why don't you ask the guy who changed the categories on the African one to WikiProject if he could do something similar with South America? I think you are making remarkable progress, one I feel should have been done the very year wikipedia was started 6-7 years ago and by more than one person. It would have been sensible to organize it like this from the start. Anyway I can see you are tied at present but you may be pleased to know I have created Kazakhstan. Krgyzstan and Uzbekistan locator maps and today have added decent infoboxes to all of the cities in the Kazakhstan and Krgyzstan categries to try to improve article quality -e.g see Karakol etc-some of the articles are not too bad there. Many aren't assessed individually yet but knowing you -you probably have it in mind to address the Central Asian task forces some time. Shall I go ahead and tag it as {{WikiProject Central Asia|class=stub|Kyrgyzstan=yes}}? Is that the format you intend? You'll probably want to do South America first - no rush -try to take it easy!! I'll gradually try to tag some of the African articles but if a bot can do it to save time I'd rather it would do it ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that would be a funny one. Can't imagine it would gain hundreds of members somehow. I;m impressed you are serious about covering all these islands though. I'd imagine Tahiti would be a part of france or polynesia work group? - one of my tahiti stubs is ucrrently up for the chop -a "non notable" 1330m metre mountain -the second highest in polynesia is up for afd. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 22:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI[edit]

Just thought you'd want to know that while looking through a load of Wikipedia-related pages, I came across this incomplete RFC on you. It hasn't been formatted properly, but I'm guessing it is aimed at you. D.M.N. (talk) 18:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lonely Planet micronations[edit]

Hi John. I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look at this. There's a suggestion that the LP guide should be removed as a source, which I believe is based on false premises, and would set a very bad precedent for WP's capacity to document the micronation phenomenon. --Gene_poole (talk) 03:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

William Stacy A-class review[edit]

Hello John Carter. My apologies for the bother, but I wanted to ask for your help. You had taken a quick look at the William Stacy article, and I appreciate. Unfortunately, nobody else has reviewed the article, and I’m afraid that the A-class review might be “closed” without any real review. Thank you for any help. Best regards, ColWilliam (talk) 23:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. Thank you very much for your review and good comments. I incorporated all of your suggestions, and am hoping for your support. Thanks again. Best regards, ColWilliam (talk) 16:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarvagnya[edit]

Old problems resurfacing again. Sarvagnya not getting any response form Riana requested that all of the Bollywood blog images were deleted and he was able to get his own way. I spent weeks making that agreement and it was confirmed the Bollywood blog is part of a disclosed media company which owns the vast majority of Indian television/film and media related work in Mumbai. It was confirmed that wikipedia is OK to use the images which we have been for over 6 months and it was once OTRS affirmed by BOTH Videmus and Riana. Ridiculous. Over 70 articles now have been stripped of the images and all hard work and efforts to make that have gone to waste and the quality immediately worsened. See :Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Attn:Admins_-_cpvios_galore and please make a response thanks. The deleting admin has deleted them with no contact with the blog himself. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ $1,000,000? 22:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there[edit]

Thank you for the offer, and I apologise for not replying earlier, I got temporarily blocked yesterday for being a little vindictive. I have chosen to accept your gracious offer after seeing the vast experience you've had with Wikipedia (and in the areas I would like to expand in) and hope this will work out well for both of us =) -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 23:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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