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很抱歉再次打扰各位管理员 但是我在中文维基被Techyan恶意封禁了

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Techyan在我发起管理员解任Techyan提案后，迅速将我封禁，如此行为简直公然破坏维基百科，请管理员在中文维基解封我。[1]--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 06:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

提醒一下投票的各位

我注意到Techyan正在申请成为用户查核员，提醒一下各位，Techyan在我发起提案解任他的管理员职务时，封禁我2周。这种行为简直是公然破坏维基百科了。尤其请投支持票的各位一定要三思。解除Techyan管理员职务的提案[2]，以及我因此提案中文维基页面正在被Techyan封禁中。

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March 2018

Information icon Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you. Tiger (Talk) 06:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just stop what you're doing now and stay claim. What you are doing now is just let stay further away from the community and let you even be blocked or even globally blocked. Please stay claim. Let's resolve the dispute in a better way. Ok? --J.Wong 07:05, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry in Chinese.) Jasonn君，首先，是次封禁本人亦不認同，因為帶有強烈惡意推定，及出於預防性質。但在下仍然希望閣下保持冷靜，讓我們逐個逐個問題解決。正如剛剛留言一樣，一連串不理性行為只會令閣下失去社群支持，甚至乎引致被封禁。翻看閣下討論頁，閣下應該很希望救回那些某國人列表，令其能於維基百科上立足。首先，個人很高興閣下已經意識到中文維基社群與英文維基社群對列表的看法是天淵之別。但就算英文版，其實那個指引亦指出此類列表其實難以維護，亦非常長。所以個人非常建議閣下由小列表做起。先將各個小列表做好，將做成列表索引。這樣應該會比較好。亦更易獲取其他社群成員支持。閣下對此有何意見？--J.Wong 07:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC) [reply]

而如果閣下願意以此方向去發展此類列表，個人應可將該等列表逐個逐個臨時恢復給你改善及處理。--J.Wong 07:28, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Wong128hk:之前我在编写【美国人列表】的时候，因为美国演员太多单独写了一个新列表美国演员列表，后也被AT删除了[4]，另有【英国演员列表】[5]还尚存。像美国英国德国这类国家，人数众多，按职业拆分成小列表是合情合理的，我也愿意对其拆分；不过像芬兰冰岛越南等国，人物比较少，一个条目足以收录，强行拆分成小列表，则每个列表只有几人，这样的情况又将如何？--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 09:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jasonnn~zhwiki: As both a Chinese and English speaking (although may not be native), I will use English in the followings, so that my message would fulfil the language English Wikipedia use. I hope you will respect the act of administrators (although it may not be a proper act). Please have an {{unblock|YOUR REASON}} template put in your user talk page in Chinese Wikipedia. Hope some administrators (e.g. Manchiu) would unblock you if you calm yourself down. — Sanmosa 08:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Sanmosa: respect a not proper act? it is some administrators who are not respecting the wikipedia rules. And about the unblock template, no worries about that.--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 09:20, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Jasonnn~zhwiki: I would speak Chinese in the followings. 管理员的不恰當決定，我之所以說仍要尊重，是因為可以使作出不恰當決定的管理员冷靜和後悔一下：Techyan確实也不怎冷静，再激化的话，事態会惡化得更厉害。— Sanmosa 09:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry again in Chinese) 只要閣下保持冷靜，在下可以隨即解封閣下。列表數量不鮮，請容在下逐個逐個覆核。建議解封之後逐個逐個提請存廢覆核，然後逐個逐個議出最適切安排。維基百科乃百年計劃，毋須爭於朝夕。意下如何？--J.Wong 09:21, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Wong128hk: 我已经提交了两个解任管理员提案，不知保持冷静是何意？逐个存废讨论很好，不过Techyan随时以无正当理由封禁我，这种情况不解决的话，即便我保持语言克制，又如何和别人正常的讨论？--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 09:45, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jasonnn~zhwiki: 你下次提解任管理员先在客棧討論一下，解任Techyan的理据似乎充分，但下次不要直接提案了。— Sanmosa 10:22, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jasonnn~zhwiki君︰當然今次閣下再發起聯署解任Techyan君，整件事會合理得多。之前，AT君及Lanwi君多少只是依循方針指引或社群議決而行事。所以聯署亦未見有用戶支持。既未有用戶支持，那封禁剛解除就直接開啟提案自然是一個不冷靜、不理性行為。希望閣下明白當中分別。而上面Sanmosa君所言亦相當有理，其行為無理，閣下只要依循現行制度絕對可以得直，有問題操作絕對可以推翻。個人非常希望閣下保持理性同冷靜，這樣才可逐個逐個問題解決。J.Wong 11:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian. --Mongolian Beef (talk) 09:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am glad you finally show off, after all you speak english even in the chinese version of wikipedia[6]. And don't warn me like you are some rule maker, no you are not, you are actually helping someone destory the wikipedia.--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Mongolian Beef: It seems not a harassment here. Please keep assuming good faith, and give time Jasonnn~zhwiki to calm down. — Sanmosa 09:27, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Please stop your disruptive behaviour. It appears you are purposefully harassing another editor. Wikipedia aims to provide a safe environment for its collaborators, and harassing other users potentially compromises that safe environment. If you continue behaving like this, you may be blocked from editing. --Stang 04:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 你于英文页对我进行警告

请问我对您的警告和您是否被封禁有什么关系吗？看清楚我警告您的原因：骚扰，具体讲就是您在多位用户的讨论页上批量的张贴内容。请问您是否考虑过别人看到您的张贴时的心情？您就不可以在您于中文维基百科的讨论叶上进行申诉（我知道您进行了申诉，但您就不可以耐心的等待有其他管理员进行介入？），不可以向封禁申诉邮箱发送电子邮件？回过头来再仔细看看自己之前为什么在英文维基百科被封禁，您难道不能从中吸取一些教训？--Stang 04:46, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]


首先，回复时请在原标题下进行，无需重开标题。 我在这一段里面都是纯粹对于您在英文维基百科跨页张贴行为的说明。请您了解，我们现在所在的站点叫做英文维基百科。英文维基百科是中文维基百科的一部分吗？为什么遇到事情需要在这里进行？您可能会说，我在中文维基百科被封禁了，无法进行回复：但这并不是您使用这里作为进行跨页张贴，及将相同的内容在多页发布，包括用户讨论页的行为。即使您所说“我不去找行政员寻求帮助还去找谁”，但您使用这样的行为进行“寻求帮助”并不恰当，甚至可能已经违反了本地（即英文维基百科）的方针。我在前面已经向您说明了可以供您选择的方式。 对于您在我的讨论页上留言的其它内容，很抱歉我暂时不会在这里进行回复。我建议您在您在中文维基百科的讨论页保持沟通。暂时说到这里。--Stang 05:46, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 2018

Stop icon
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Hut 8.5 06:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Jasonnn~zhwiki (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I got unfair blocked and attacked in the zhwiki by at least 6 zhwiki administrators,i know it is hard to believe but it is the fact.Any one can check that. With no choice i post in enwiki in the zhwiki bureaucrats pages, ask for help. I know this is not the best way but to me it is like the ony way. Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 07:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Events on zh-wiki are of little or no relevance to this block. If you wish to be unblocked on en-wiki, you will need to address the reason for which you are blocked here. Yunshui 雲水 08:15, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Jasonnn~zhwiki (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

User:Hut_8.5 did not list any proof why he blocked me, and so far he didn't reply my question "why my block expiration time is indefinite?" Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 09:50, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 10:12, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

  • User:Hut_8.5,May i ask why my block expiration time is indefinite? Did you know that by blocking me you are actually helping the bad zhwiki administrators?--Jasonnn~zhwiki (talk) 07:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only thing you have done here at the English Wikipedia is complain about things happening at the Chinese Wikipedia, including using your talk page here to continue your dispute while pinging a number of editors, spamming your complaint across a number of user talk pages and edit warring to reinstate your messages when reverted. At the English Wikipedia, we have no say whatsoever over what goes on at the Chinese Wikipedia, and you must pursue whatever dispute resolution processes exist at the Chinese Wikipedia. This has been going on since March and is disruptive, and that is why you are blocked. And you are still not listening - even in your last comment here, you're still complaining about "the bad zhwiki administrators". To prevent any further disruption, I have revoked your ability to edit this talk page. You have not made any contributions here at the English Wikipedia, but if you should ever wish to help us develop our English language encyclopedia, please make a request at WP:UTRS and explain what you would do to help. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Boing! said Zebedee has basically said what I was going to say here. The English Wikipedia is not an appropriate forum for arguing about blocks on the Chinese Wikipedia. All you've done here is complain about your block on the Chinese Wikipedia, and you've done so in a very disruptive way - pinging large numbers of users without any reason, leaving large numbers of unsolicited messages on peoples' talk pages, and reverting people who removed the disruption. You've received many prior warnings that this isn't appropriate, and even a prior block on the 22nd of March. You ignored all of this and carried on anyway, which is why you have an indefinite block now. For the record the reason I did not respond to your message within 2 hours was that I was at work, and I don't care in the slightest what administrators do on the Chinese Wikipedia. Hut 8.5 17:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jasonnn~zhwiki, after your email to me still complaining about the same thing and demanding justice, I have revoked your ability to use the email facility on the English Wikipedia. For the very last time, You need to address your Chinese Wikipedia problems on the Chinese Wikipedia, as there is nothing anyone here on the English Wikipedia can do about them. I have also now protected this page to prevent any taunting or other unconstructive commentary. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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