User talk:Hestiazfire

Welcome and introduction

Hi, Hestiazfire. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  20:52, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

ようこそ You don't need to read anything - anybody can edit; just go to an article and edit it. Be Bold, but please don't put silly stuff in - it will be removed very quickly, and will annoy people. Ask for help. Talk to us live, or edit this page, put {{helpme}} and describe what help you need. Someone will reply very quickly - usually within a few minutes. Play in your user area. For example, create User:Hestiazfire/test. Edit existing articles, before you make your own. Look at some subjects that you know about, and see if you can make them a bit better. For example, Wikipedia:Cleanup. When you're ready, read about Your first article. It should be about something well-known, and it will need references. Good luck with editing; please drop me a line some time on my own talk page. There's lots of information below. Once again, welcome to the fantastic world of Wikipedia! -- Chzz  ►  20:52, 11 November 2011 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Grade sources • Cite sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists • Best articles Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Pages needing attention • Peer review The missing manual

Help desk

Hello, Hestiazfire. You have new messages at WP:HD.
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 Chzz  ►  20:52, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

As a further reply;

Yes, it is quite confusing at first. We all try to make it easy, but it's just so damn big :-)

But remember it's a wiki - and therefore, if you have any ideas about how it can improve, you can improve it. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia:Contact us page is currently one of the very few protected pages, so you cannot directly edit that one - but you could comment on Wikipedia Talk:Contact us - suggesting how it could be made clearer. Or, ideas are very welcome over at the village pump.

But in general, asking on the help desk should at least point you in the right direction! Best,  Chzz  ►  21:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Mmmm. yeah. it's gonna take me a while to get around to learning all of the interactive stuff...which started w that need to place a suggestion. typically, i just read the pages. i feel that there are many random/needless comments by trolls that just waste people's time, so i tend to avoid that kind of thing. thank u for pointing me in the right direction :D

It's true that a lot of talk pages attract inappropriate comments - it really depends on the article, and how "well maintained" it is. For example, on featured content, the talk page system works extremely well - e.g. today's featured article is Harry Cobby, and a query on the talk got a response within hours.

But for less popular pages, the talk page can unfortunately stagnate. There's a couple of things you can do about that though; if you post a query on a talk page, you can also put a short comment somewhere else to attract attention. For example: if I was querying the source of something on an article talk page, I might also put a brief note on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard saying "Please see my question on Talk:Whatever". If it was a question about an article about e.g. music, I could post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music.

The various noticeboards and project pages; the problem is often not knowing where to ask. But if you ask on the helpdesk or use {{helpme}} here, then people will try to point you to the right place. Or, you can always ask me :-)

The best way to contact Chzz is IRC (text-chat), here  · Second-best is my talk page · Third-best is email Chzzlive.co.uk

 Chzz  ►  21:48, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 21:15, 11 November 2011 (UTC) thank u Sinebot--Hestiazfire (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Hestiazfire! Thanks for taking the time to comment on the AFT page :). I've responded to your comment, which is, I think, a good direction to go in - making the question as specific as possible. Keep up the good work :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:33, 11 November 2011 (UTC)